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Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

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Post by jimrob4 » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:00 PM UTC

jhallenworld wrote: post #57

For technical discussion groups: USENET. Either moderated newsgroups or even unmoderated ones for obscure enough topics. Spam is the issue, but not much spam on USENET these days. Also, the ham radio guys like groups.io, which is where yahoo groups migrated to. There are a lot of groups there on specific things, like Yeasu FT-857D transceiver. Groups.io has per-group file storage, which is handy for this. Anyway on U…

I was a big Usenet nerd, then switched to Reddit in the late aughts. Went back today and it was a ghostland, at least the stuff I used to frequent. Guess I need to look better, ha.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

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Post by TheCondor » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:01 PM UTC

SkyMarshal wrote: post #30

lucasyvas wrote: post #27

The one being promoted the most on migrations subreddits is Kbin (particularly kbin.social for sign-up). It federates with Lemmy as well - apparently some folks think the Lemmy devs have questionable moral character so decided not to promote Lemmy as a primary option (hell if I know, didn't look into it). That Kbin instance is getting slammed and trying to scale up right now - many identical /r/{subreddit} are now av…

Seems there are complaints about both dev teams - Kbin devs are apparently fascists or something in that vicinity, and Lemmy devs are apparently tankies or something in that vicinity.

As a matter of policy? Like you can't work on one of these platforms if you don't comply with their ideology? Or more like "this is the shitty place we've come to as a society?..."

I wonder how many extremists contributed to the reddit code base over the years.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

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Post by electricant » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:02 PM UTC

I suggest you take a look at raddle: https://raddle.me/

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

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Post by RandallBrown » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:02 PM UTC

lb4r wrote: post #179

RandallBrown wrote: post #171

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I would be interested to hear how you measure Apollo usage to say it's backed by 50% of Reddit. I've never used it and don't know anyone that has. I read a stat yesterday that only about 5% of Reddit traffic comes from 3rd party apps (might be incorrect) so I'm curious what impact it has beyond just a client for reddit. (I'm vaguely aware of some moderation tools that Apollo has.)

I don't mean the usage of Apollo in particular, but my understanding from what I've read is that according to some metrics, almost 50% of Reddit have gone dark, partly in support of Apollo. It's already the unofficial alternative to Reddit, except also kind of being Reddit at the same time. Correction: I did a quick check, and around 40% went dark according to this source, so not quite the 'almost 50%' that I proclai…

Ah, that makes more sense. 40% going dark is actually way higher than I would have thought.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

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Post by quikoa » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:03 PM UTC

Glench wrote: post #174

sebstefan wrote: post #168

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Could you make it edit them to an AES256 encryption of itself? That way it's reversible Much better way to protest I feel like

Hm interesting point! I feel like for a broad audience having to manage your encryption key wouldn't be a good UX, but maybe for more advanced users!

Maybe you can derive the encryption key from a password. Most users should be able to handle that.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

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Post by csa » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:05 PM UTC

beret4breakfast wrote: post #154

nehal3m wrote: post #140

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It's been a little better lately, but their video player kinda sucks ass. Scrubbing usually causes total lock for me, requiring a reload of the entire page. Sometimes the video and the controls will get stuck but the audio keeps playing, even if you fold shut the player on old. It got to the point where I don't bother unfolding the video unless it's embedded.

Hence why 3pa like Apollo are great, it’s video/gif player is (was :’( ) the best.

> Hence why 3pa like Apollo are great, it’s video/gif player is (was :’( ) the best.

Why did they only charge $10 a year for this gem of a tool?

It boggles my mind.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

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Post by andai » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:07 PM UTC

The site:reddit.com search modifier is very useful. You are just missing the minus ;)

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

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Post by anon7725 » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:07 PM UTC

redmerchant2 wrote: post #39

tensor wrote: post #26

I would love to see an alternative that really focuses on moderation. Perhaps something that has three flavours of subs. 1. Public: these would be democratically run forums. The users would actually be able to vote for moderators, and perhaps even rules around them. This would be ideal for things like r/[country] or r/[city]. 2. Private: these would be traditional forums run by the people who found them. It should al…

Democratically voted mods will never work for any moderately sized forum. The problem is the forums would be brigaded by terminally online “interest groups.” See how the alt right infiltrates gaming groups. The reasonable voices are outnumbered and taken over.

> terminally online “interest groups.”

In my view, terminally online interest groups are responsible for the current protests against Reddit. Several of the smaller low traffic area-specific subs that I frequent have been taken offline (some threatening permanently).

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

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Post by noelsusman » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:08 PM UTC

0zemp3c wrote: post #130

runjake wrote: post #78

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I'll save a bunch of people some trouble. This is a politically-"leftist" site (top current thread is "How did you get into anarchism", along with something about ACAB). It's not really a general purpose Reddit alternative. So, if that's your thing, check it out. If it's not, probably not a good fit and the "better approach" to moderation probably won't go in your favor.

> This is a politically-"leftist" site (top current thread is "How did you get into anarchism", along with something about ACAB) tbh how is this different than most subs? this is a feature, not a bug...it keeps these people out of the real world and glued to their keyboards where their blast radius is limited to their own echo chamber

That's not how extremist online echo chambers tend to play out. See January 6th for an easy example.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

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Post by tensor » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:08 PM UTC

kimbernator wrote: post #143

redmerchant2 wrote: post #39

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Democratically voted mods will never work for any moderately sized forum. The problem is the forums would be brigaded by terminally online “interest groups.” See how the alt right infiltrates gaming groups. The reasonable voices are outnumbered and taken over.

Agree. It's already democratic in Reddit's current form in the sense that anybody can just start a community to replace one with moderation they don't like. The subreddit with the moderation that works the best often wins out.

This is not remotely democratic without discovery. E.g. if you start an alt, the original would need to be force to display the alt as an alternative. Otherwise it's too easy to control the narrative and prevent anyone from even finding out about the alternative. Today, the primary sub generally actively bans any mention of alternatives. Also the most obviously named forum will attract the new users simply because of the name.