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Re: Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?

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Post by joelbluminator »

sb8244 wrote: post #224
joelbluminator wrote: post #220

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Shrink probably, sorry its not growing and it never became popular...

Sorry, have you worked with the former employer I'm mentioning? I'm talking about a specific use case that has specific needs and challenges. Blanket comments like yours aren't really helpful or necessary.

The whole discussion is not helpful or necessary actually. Who cares about your employer? We know nothing about him or the situation and no one cares. Yet this is the internet, you brouhgt it up and I opined. Lets meet here in 2 years to see what happened deal?

Re: Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?

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Post by sb8244 »

joelbluminator wrote: post #231
sb8244 wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, have you worked with the former employer I'm mentioning? I'm talking about a specific use case that has specific needs and challenges. Blanket comments like yours aren't really helpful or necessary.

The whole discussion is not helpful or necessary actually. Who cares about your employer? We know nothing about him or the situation and no one cares. Yet this is the internet, you brouhgt it up and I opined. Lets meet here in 2 years to see what happened deal?

The thread is literally "Are you satisfied with Elixir?" A big piece of that is me having brought it to a SaaS company and from 0 usage to 50% service coverage. So yea, I am curious what they'll do in 2 years—that was my point. It's a point that you're not qualified to constructively opine on.

I wouldn't care if someone else posted your comment, but you've been downing (non-constructively) on Elixir in this thread and other posts you've made on Hacker News.

Re: Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?

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Post by hnedeotes »

alluro2 wrote: post #230
midrus wrote: post #197

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response.text()) .then(html => { $refs.dropdown.innerHTML = html }) " @click="open = true" >Show Dropdown Seriously? This has to be a joke.

I was stumped when I saw it just now. What the heck...I guess the next thing, an amazing breakthrough, is going to be Alpine.scss style="background-color:$red-secondary;font-weight:bold"

I don't use alpine, but isn't that the blessed way of doing it in React/Vue/etc? I thought they were the ones introducing both @handlers on elements and JSX styling

Re: Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?

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Post by acconrad »

I run GetToKnow (https://gettoknowapp.com) on Elixir.

It costs me $50/mo total (app + DB) and I can easily support 20k users across 250 organizations (some of whom are paid).

I'm basically ramen profitable overnight and my overhead is incredibly low. It's essentially pure profit.

With Ruby/Rails this would be at least x4 the cost.

Re: Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?

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Post by joelbluminator »

sb8244 wrote: post #232
joelbluminator wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole discussion is not helpful or necessary actually. Who cares about your employer? We know nothing about him or the situation and no one cares. Yet this is the internet, you brouhgt it up and I opined. Lets meet here in 2 years to see what happened deal?

The thread is literally "Are you satisfied with Elixir?" A big piece of that is me having brought it to a SaaS company and from 0 usage to 50% service coverage. So yea, I am curious what they'll do in 2 years—that was my point. It's a point that you're not qualified to constructively opine on. I wouldn't care if someone else posted your comment, but you've been downing (non-constructively) on Elixir in this thread an…

I am free to say what I want about Elixir, I make it no secret. It got most of its (now faded) hype by trashing Ruby, which rubbed me the wrong way. I genuinely believe Elixir is an unsmart career choice , my feelings about Elixir aside. Without a big corporate backing it and never making it into the top 20 languages during it's peak (which is now passed) there is only one way - down. It has nothing to do with Elixir as a language and everything to do with how saturated the market is. As a career it's not a great main language in most areas of the world; sure the superstars will get by nicely. But if you're average you're better off with one of the popular stacks. OP is free to choose what he wants but I don't see how any of what I say isn't true, maybe you'll enlighten me.

Re: Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?

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Post by joelbluminator »

midrus wrote: post #213
joelbluminator wrote: post #108

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Rails is awesome nothing comes close to being as fun and productive. Tried php and django, not bad but not Rails.

Can't agree more with this. I've used both, Rails since a few years ago and Django for about 8 years or so, and while I still like Django I think rails is far, far superior in every aspect. The only thing I like more from django is the migrations system (not even the ORM, just the migrations) and maybe the admin as a tool to browse the database. Other than that, Rails all day.

Yes the Django admin was cool, the Rails core team didnt want to bring something similar to Rails for reasons I dont quite remember..maybe its a shame

Re: Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?

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Post by ipaddr »

paramagicdev wrote: post #194
granshaw wrote: post #65

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Yup. And as illustrated by OP's example links, avoid Stimulus Reflex (NOT stimulus.js) for production too. Apart from the stated reasons, the fact that websocket connections aren't scoped by User by default is a really, REALLY sharp edge!

Im a little puzzled by this. This is essentially like saying "Dont use Rails, the controllers arent scoped to the user by default" There are plenty of valid reasons to use websockets not scoped to a user. Also how is SR supposed to know your user scheme? What if you have a multi-tenant app and websockets should be scoped to an account and not a user? Im honestly confused by this statement.

Wouldn't you just override the defaults if you need to scope at the account level?

There are plenty of valid reasons to not scope it to a user. Having the default scoped to the most common case makes sense.

Re: Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?

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Post by ricketycricket »

joelbluminator wrote: post #235
sb8244 wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thread is literally "Are you satisfied with Elixir?" A big piece of that is me having brought it to a SaaS company and from 0 usage to 50% service coverage. So yea, I am curious what they'll do in 2 years—that was my point. It's a point that you're not qualified to constructively opine on. I wouldn't care if someone else posted your comment, but you've been downing (non-constructively) on Elixir in this thread an…

I am free to say what I want about Elixir, I make it no secret. It got most of its (now faded) hype by trashing Ruby, which rubbed me the wrong way. I genuinely believe Elixir is an unsmart career choice , my feelings about Elixir aside. Without a big corporate backing it and never making it into the top 20 languages during it's peak (which is now passed) there is only one way - down. It has nothing to do with Elixir…

Joel, I wish you'd stop appearing in every popular Elixir post's comments to say something bad about the language or ecosystem. You've admitted in previous discussions that you've never even used Elixir, so why even comment on a post asking about personal development experiences with the language?

>It got most of its (now faded) hype by trashing Ruby, which rubbed me the wrong way.

It's a programming language, not a sports team. Developers excited about a new language are allowed to be excited and compare with other languages. I don't know what trashing you saw that offended you, but commenting on every HN post to try to steer people away is unproductive.

Re: Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?

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Post by shepardrtc »

pjerem wrote: post #61
shepardrtc wrote: post #38

A couple of guys at my company did their first startup using Elixir years ago, but they weren’t devs so they had to contract a company to do it. They regret it now because no one at our company can work on it, and they have to rely on the contractors who charge a lot. Sure someone could learn it, but we’ve got more important things to do. As much as everyone on HN loves it, you’re going to have to work hard to get ot…

Why did non devs choose the language of a product ? Sounds like a strange decision. Or it was the contractor's choice with its dev team waiting for years the opportunity to try Elixir.

I think they read about it on HN

Re: Ask HN: Are you satisfied with Elixir or do you regret choosing Elixir?

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Post by matreyes »

I’ve been working with Elixir for a variety of use-cases for years and I just love it. The only problem we had is the obvious: You don’t have all the libraries you will find in JS or Python. But usually is easy to dig into the oss libraries and create a PR, and the community is amazing!
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