Your kid is 7. I'm pretty sure hat I was eating dirt when I was 7. If he has showed you he's interested in programming then go ahead, but make sure you're not projecting your own interests onto your kid. It'll lead to resentment in 7 or 8 years.
I cant get my kids to tidy their rooms so no chance teaching them to code
Ask HN: Please share your experience teaching your kids to program
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know the full story but this kinda lines up with what I wanted to say about the topic. My GFs kid was not at all interested in what I did, until it could relate to her friends at school. Apparently some of the boys at school had used Devtools to modify a class website and add dirty words or whatever it is they do. So I showed her at home how to go into Devtools and change the appearance of the teaching portal…
First, respect for taking the time to teach her. Second, I have difficulty writing this exctly because of the last sentence, will do so anyway - I taught myself to program in 1984, two years before finishing high school. That and being on the chess team pretty much killed my social life and any chance at carnal activities until I turned 21 (high school was followed by compulsory consription for 2 years). I struggled…
The fact that you don't like Bentleys, big houses in Majorca or a specific lady does not make them vacuous or meaningless; not to mention it would be 100% rewarding if those were your dreams and you've accomplished them.
That guy may or may not like those, but appeals to people that would love -or they think they would- those. The same goes for any other dreams we have.
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#2331. where I live they were very expensive at the time and so very rare
2. Primarily I wanted to play games on them (things like Heroes II on Intel 386)
At some point I had enough of games and as a side effect I had to reinstall my system so many times (thanks to win-cih and other viruses) that I started thinking about building my own OS. Childish dreams :) but it got me to C programming and that's how it started for me.
So now, decades later, I have my own children and I think how on Earth am I going to get them attracted to technology when it's sooo mainstream that it's not mysterious anymore. It does not feel like adventure to my children, it's their environment.
So instead of thinking much I started with things I remember from my childhood - simple instruction-less lego bricks, or more modern geomag, whatever else that comes without ikea-type instruction so my children can just build stuff. I'm yet to think the step-two.
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#234I'm in exactly the same boat, and doing very similar to you. My son is 11 and daughter 8. Both do Code.org and/or Scratch fairly regularly. Son wants to get into modding Minecraft, but honestly I'm a little annoyed with how shady and complicated that process is. Or maybe I'm just too old to "get it". I don't discourage him from it, but haven't been able to teach him that as much. Son also recently bought with his own…
Have you seen the book "Adventures in Minecraft [1]? Modding Minecraft with Python. I'm working through it with my 10 year old at the moment. Pretty good so far. Nothing "shady" (not sure what you meant by that) and not complicated. [1] https://www.wiley.com/en-us/Adventures+in+Minecraft%2C+2nd+E...
Re: Ask HN: Please share your experience teaching your kids to program
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you seen the book "Adventures in Minecraft [1]? Modding Minecraft with Python. I'm working through it with my 10 year old at the moment. Pretty good so far. Nothing "shady" (not sure what you meant by that) and not complicated. [1] https://www.wiley.com/en-us/Adventures+in+Minecraft%2C+2nd+E...
Thanks will check it out. By shady I meant the sites filled with ads that you go to to download mods, and the mod installers that I worry about what else they might be installing on my machine. Am I doing it wrong?
Re: Ask HN: Please share your experience teaching your kids to program
#236Your kid is 7. I'm pretty sure hat I was eating dirt when I was 7. If he has showed you he's interested in programming then go ahead, but make sure you're not projecting your own interests onto your kid. It'll lead to resentment in 7 or 8 years.
The brain evolves really quickly at that age, at 7 you're still trying to learn not to eat that dog poop you found in your garden.
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Re: Ask HN: Please share your experience teaching your kids to program
#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you attribute failure to the early introductions? Perhaps they didn't stick at the time, but they likely laid a solid foundation :)
I think there was a giant gap between expectations and reality. He wanted to program so he could make video games, but learning to program starts out text-based. The gulf between learning to code and learning to make video games like the ones he enjoyed is overwhelming. I think the calculator eliminated that dissonance between expectation and possibility.
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know the full story but this kinda lines up with what I wanted to say about the topic. My GFs kid was not at all interested in what I did, until it could relate to her friends at school. Apparently some of the boys at school had used Devtools to modify a class website and add dirty words or whatever it is they do. So I showed her at home how to go into Devtools and change the appearance of the teaching portal…
First, respect for taking the time to teach her. Second, I have difficulty writing this exctly because of the last sentence, will do so anyway - I taught myself to program in 1984, two years before finishing high school. That and being on the chess team pretty much killed my social life and any chance at carnal activities until I turned 21 (high school was followed by compulsory consription for 2 years). I struggled…
We are human, yes, and there will be inevitable similarities in the things in life from which we derive joy and sadness and meaning and love and hate, etc. But it is after all a subjective thing in the utmost, and trying to persuade or coerce our own subjective meaning and value judgments onto others will only ever result in conflict. That's not to say we shouldn't have our values challenged, as that is the only way we can grow as people. But your kid -- indeed, every human being that ever existed -- has to make this trek themselves. Nobody can do the hard work of finding meaning and purpose for us, and the older I get, the more I can see how damaging it is when we try to do this hard work for someone we care about. It's impossible to convey tacit knowledge, and it's from tacit knowledge that we derive meaning and construct our system of values. The world's languages are littered with empty platitudes as a result of this struggle. That's why the best answer is also the most challenging: Set a good example and be there to help those you care about to process their experiences (good and bad) intellectually so that they might gain that tacit knowledge. If you're still reading this, I'd like to suggest taking a look at the ancient Stoic philosophers (Epictetus, Seneca, etc), as the things they wrote thousands of years ago have been extremely helpful in my own journey.