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Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by therealx »

leet_thow wrote: post #54
jonnytran wrote: post #47

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Hi, I basically agree. But can you expand on this? What exactly do you (or anyone reading this) see as such a problem with regard to interviewing? Especially, anything you see that's gotten worse.

If you were to ask me, I would say that middle managers are generally miserable and are trying to avoid risk and maintain job security by NOT hiring people as long as there is VC money to burn. But I'm a nihilist.

I know this is late, but a lot of us really want to hire people, but there are a lot of people out there that are overconfident in their skillset, and sometimes you have to do a quick sanity check to weed them out. I agree, though, that most you can tell before that point. I'd never make someone donate a day to a test, but 15 mins of whiteboarding can go a long way if someone doesnt have a lot of publically available code to go look at (and, a lot of devs don't, due to working on public repos)

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by rotterdamdev »

FillardMillmore wrote: post #133
benibela wrote: post #85

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>Perf is becoming more important than it had been My eyesight is becoming worse, but I read that as Perl

I like Perl, but it's had a bit of an identity crisis since Perl 6. I believe late last year, they renamed it to Raku as a 'solution' to this identity crisis. I still think Perl can get the job done in a lot of different circumstances and, despite the fact that it's not really used as widely for web tooling as it was in the late '90s, it's still an invaluable scripting tool for sysadmins still willing to dip their to…

Perl came as a reaction to the Unix tooling that was awk regex and all that jazz. It was designed to replace those tools and it did a good job at that. Times have changed, however, and perl no longer fills a function. We have python now, which surpasses perl in functionality.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by rotterdamdev »

Rust is to C what bsd is to Linux. An enthusiastic hobby project without real momentum. They also became a SJW meme with their inclusivity when they made their code of conduct. An inconsistent and inconclusive community trying to make a consistent and conclusive design. Look at it, it's a mess. You are better off learning COBOL. At least there are jobs for that.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by badpun »

AznHisoka wrote: post #71

Lots of comments about which technologies are becoming popular. what about things that have lost popularity? Ie. Ruby on Rails and Hadoop

Hadoop is still strong, but now that it's matured, the jobs pay a bit less (as it's easier to hire).

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by mcv »

asteli wrote: post #230
mcv wrote: post #207

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Note to self: check out Pangolin and Clamp. I've got to say, they sound totally believable. I'm not entirely convinced you're making a joke here.

Joke is on me. I picked those nouns at random but Pangolin is a bona-fide frontend framework[1] and Clamp is a text truncating utility.[2] 1: https://pangolinjs.org/ 2: https://github.com/josephschmitt/Clamp.js/

It does emphasize the point that we're running out of nouns.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by spion »

sandov wrote: post #228
spion wrote: post #139

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If you take the time to read about it, you'll quickly realize TIOBE is pretty bad.

What index do you suggest instead?

To start with, I would try to fix the list here https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-defi...

as well as adjust the query for programming-specific engines like GitHub. To have a programming language index not even consider github or stackoverflow as primary sources makes it a laughing stock IMO

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by downerending »

swsieber wrote: post #144
scabarott wrote: post #110

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>Rust is seeing production use in many places and its being accepted more as the sane alternative to C for modern development of high performance software Not quite there yet.

Not quite where yet? It's seeing lots (albeit quiet) of production adoption, and it's still growing.

Viewed from here, Rust has far less penetration than Python did in (say) 1995. I see more Julia than Rust, for example.

Whatever its benefits, Rust remains quite obscure for now.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by downerending »

chooseaname wrote: post #138

Nothing has changed. It is still programming. You take some input, you manipulate it and then you do something with the output. How you do that comes down to mostly a matter of preference with a smattering of "engineering".

Pretty much. The cool kids have their heads in the clouds, but still can't be bothered with correctness, reliability, debuggability, etc.

Nothing new under the sun.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Post by asteli »

mcv wrote: post #235
asteli wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Joke is on me. I picked those nouns at random but Pangolin is a bona-fide frontend framework[1] and Clamp is a text truncating utility.[2] 1: https://pangolinjs.org/ 2: https://github.com/josephschmitt/Clamp.js/

It does emphasize the point that we're running out of nouns.

I work in electronics and laser stuff, where we use german-style compound names like "multi-pixel photon counting" and "erbium-doped fiber amplifier." Even in low-level compute, packages are named descriptively e.g. FreeRTOS. Lots of acronyms, but very few cute single-word nouns to name things. I've only observed that trend in relatively high-level software.
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