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Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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Post by DrBenCarson »

xmorse wrote: post #198
danpalmer wrote: post #9

Zed. They've upped their game in the AI integration and so far it's the best one I've seen (external from work). Cursor and VSCode+Copilot always felt slow and janky, Zed is much less janky feels like pretty mature software, and I can just plug in my Gemini API key and use that for free/cheap instead of paying for the editor's own integration.

I am using Zed too, it still has some issues but it is comparable to Cursor. In my opinion they iterate even faster than the VSCode forks.

Yep not having to build off a major fork will certainly help you move fast

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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Post by kaycey2022 »

hn_throw2025 wrote: post #183
elAhmo wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cursor/Windsurf and similar IDEs and plugins are more than autocomplete on steroids. Sure, you might not like it and think you as a human should write all code, but frequent experience in the industry in the past months is that productivity in the teams using tools like this has greatly increased. It is not unreasonable to think that someone deciding not to use tools like this will not be competitive in the market in…

I think you’re right, and perhaps it’s time for the “autocomplete on steroids” tag to be retired, even if something approximating that is happening behind the scenes. I was converting a bash script to Bun/TypeScript the other day. I was doing it the way I am used to… working on one file at a time, only bringing in the AI when helpful, reviewing every diff, and staying in overall control. Out of curiosity, threw the w…

How much did that cost you? How long did you spend reading and testing the results?

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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Post by [deleted] »

tough wrote: post #220
sokoloff wrote: post #219

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There are tens (maybe low hundreds?) of thousands of people who want that. Which is exactly why it hasn’t been commercially developed.

yea... I guess is too niche, I guess scratch your own itch + foss it so the low hundreds of us can have fun or smt I was exploring using andyk/ht discussed on hn a few months back, to sit as a proxy my llm can call at the same time i control via xtermjs, but i need to figure out how to train the llm to output keybindings/special keys etc, but promising start nonetheless, i can indeed parse a lot of extra info than ju…

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Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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Post by venatiodecorus »

frainfreeze wrote: post #182
bilekas wrote: post #170

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Yes very observant, modified forks with their agents built in. Zed does not have any built in, sublime does not have agents built in but if you like you can continue this disingenuous discussion.

I was under impression Zed had native LLM integration, built into the editor?

yes, its now built in. i haven't had a chance to use it much yet, it was released fairly recently.

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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Post by allie1 »

danpalmer wrote: post #9

Zed. They've upped their game in the AI integration and so far it's the best one I've seen (external from work). Cursor and VSCode+Copilot always felt slow and janky, Zed is much less janky feels like pretty mature software, and I can just plug in my Gemini API key and use that for free/cheap instead of paying for the editor's own integration.

I just wish they'd release a debugger already. Once its done i'll be moving to them completely.

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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Post by herdrick »

welder wrote: post #75

Neither? I'm surprised nobody has said it yet. I turned off AI autocomplete, and sometimes use the chat to debug or generate simple code but only when I prompt it to. Continuous autocomplete is just annoying and slows me down.

The chat in what tool? Not Cursor nor Windsurf, it sounds like?

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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Post by freehorse »

xmorse wrote: post #197
fastball wrote: post #89

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Cursor bought Supermaven last year.

It still works

Do they actually improve the model you can get without cursor? Or in reality all the development goes to cursor's autocomplete without making this available to supermaven subscribers? It is hard to make sure of that from their website and lack of info online.
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