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Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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Now I'm interested, why would someone in https://www.oeny.hu/oeny/nmtk/tervreszletek/NMTK-138 waste all that space on the recessed entrance instead of just making straight wall to the roof ?

It provides shadow and protection from rain above the entrance. It's a pretty common design.

Okay but why not separate small roof over entrance? This design is making wall more complex (now whole roof overhangs over entrance) for not all that much gain.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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> The biggest builders here will be in multiple subdivisions at once, with varying topography You are ignoring the tens of thousands of hours pre-built builders put into streamlining designs that can be put on almost any plot of land. Think of it as downloading a piece of software and saying "oh it just works everywhere" while ignoring the engineering time that went into testing and bug fixing on every platform. Rega…

> Regardless of what you see as a casual outside observer, an architect and civil engineer are putting their stamps on each set of blueprints for each construction site. Hard disagree on this wishful thinking. I've literally seen the submitted plans for my house - there was absolutely no architect or engineer stamp on them. The true mega-builders might do this, but smaller operations (say, 25 to a few hundred houses…

> Threads like this are peak HN - people who "know better" how the world should work (and hey, I wish I worked like that too) telling people who have actually experienced something their experience can't possibly be real.

Haha, yes

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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I work in construction management and I think you’re underestimating the complexity of generating a set of construction plans that meets code, passes inspection, and has coherent aesthetics. There isn’t just one set of building codes for every jurisdiction, different jurisdictions adopt various sets of code. Different geographic regions require various things that other areas don’t require. My state doesn’t have eart…

There also seems to be shortage of cad tools avable to inspect a building plan.,like as a consumer you would home you would get a plan of the house when you buy the house

CAD is used to create construction drawings, but once they’re created, everyone works off of a PDF set of plans. You only need the CAD files and software if you want to change the plan yourself.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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I’ve worked in construction, maybe this was true for post-and-beam and perhaps some other methods where you are using what is available from nature. Historically, for example, log cabins are popular in the woods because logs are plentiful and adobe was used in desert environments because of the abundance of sand, lime, binders, etc. I would not build a solid wood home in the desert of New Mexico for the same reason w…

> Modern building construction, at least in North America, is based around the “balloon framing” idea that the walls support subsequent floors and the roof, maybe with a load bearing wall in the middle somewhere. I think you're getting balloon and platform framing mixed up.

Yes, I did.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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Not completely what you are looking for, but still open source plans of house: Wikihouse https://www.wikihouse.cc/ Earthships are also said to be open source, but the plans are (definitely) not free https://earthshipbiotecture.com/ You can also check Open Source Home, by Studiolada (those are free, but the plans are in french) https://www.countryliving.com/remodeling-renovation/news/g46... Open Source Ecology is now…

Wow. I scanned through this entire thread, and haven't seen an automatic house plan generator. I saw one comment with a request, and no responses. The architecture industry is enormous. Real estate is enormous. There's no automatic drawing, electrical, plumbing, insulation, ect... generators given specifications? I'm kind of amazed no one's trying to disrupt that. "Hi Stable Diffusion, please draw me blueprints for a…

That's been the Holy Grail since I was a kid (AutoCAD jock, mid '80s). I think the best we'll achieve is some themed parametric models. For stuff like massing, space planning, budgeting, and presentations.

Or an app with some dials and checkboxes for a constrained design space. Like for micro homes. Or vertically integrated companies like Lindal Cedar Homes. Kind of like buying a customized airplane or RV.

But for general purpose construction documents? I'd bet no. So many different construction codes. Site planning. Construction tech and products are constantly changing. Customers are psychotic. Etc, etc.

Disclaimer: I was just a drafter working misc A/E/C jobs. And I wrote add-ons for arch and civil engr. But mosdef am not an architect. Would like to be proven wrong.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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Wow. I scanned through this entire thread, and haven't seen an automatic house plan generator. I saw one comment with a request, and no responses. The architecture industry is enormous. Real estate is enormous. There's no automatic drawing, electrical, plumbing, insulation, ect... generators given specifications? I'm kind of amazed no one's trying to disrupt that. "Hi Stable Diffusion, please draw me blueprints for a…

I work in construction management and I think you’re underestimating the complexity of generating a set of construction plans that meets code, passes inspection, and has coherent aesthetics. There isn’t just one set of building codes for every jurisdiction, different jurisdictions adopt various sets of code. Different geographic regions require various things that other areas don’t require. My state doesn’t have eart…

> I work in construction management and I think you’re underestimating the complexity of generating a set of construction plans that meets code, passes inspection, and has coherent aesthetics.

And yet we were able to make Figma.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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post #108

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> The biggest builders here will be in multiple subdivisions at once, with varying topography You are ignoring the tens of thousands of hours pre-built builders put into streamlining designs that can be put on almost any plot of land. Think of it as downloading a piece of software and saying "oh it just works everywhere" while ignoring the engineering time that went into testing and bug fixing on every platform. Rega…

> Regardless of what you see as a casual outside observer, an architect and civil engineer are putting their stamps on each set of blueprints for each construction site. Hard disagree on this wishful thinking. I've literally seen the submitted plans for my house - there was absolutely no architect or engineer stamp on them. The true mega-builders might do this, but smaller operations (say, 25 to a few hundred houses…

Thats nuts i had to get a simple beam retrofit signed off by an engineer. In the states it must vary greatly by location

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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You are ignoring the tens of thousands of hours pre-built builders put into streamlining designs that can be put on almost any plot of land. No they aren't. This thread was started by someone saying "The idea of planning a house without taking into account the site where it will sit will never produce a good house.". Both of you (and everyone) is saying this isn't true.

I'm actually taking issue with that assertion - mid-sized builders absolutely don't have that kind of time put into the designs of their house. They build one and iterate on the problems - it's not so different from software. I know - we've had quite a few problems related to being the 2nd iteration of a new house plan for a builder.

Just think of how shitty it would be to be #1. There is a lot to be gained by being house #10 or 100 in terms of design cleanup. Achitecture houses that are one off will always have weird quirks because its the first of iteration or cost a ton to address those issues .

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in construction management and I think you’re underestimating the complexity of generating a set of construction plans that meets code, passes inspection, and has coherent aesthetics. There isn’t just one set of building codes for every jurisdiction, different jurisdictions adopt various sets of code. Different geographic regions require various things that other areas don’t require. My state doesn’t have eart…

> I work in construction management and I think you’re underestimating the complexity of generating a set of construction plans that meets code, passes inspection, and has coherent aesthetics. And yet we were able to make Figma.

Yes, we can achieve simpler tasks. This one is more complex.

Re: Ask HN: Where to find open-source house plans?

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post #197

Not completely what you are looking for, but still open source plans of house: Wikihouse https://www.wikihouse.cc/ Earthships are also said to be open source, but the plans are (definitely) not free https://earthshipbiotecture.com/ You can also check Open Source Home, by Studiolada (those are free, but the plans are in french) https://www.countryliving.com/remodeling-renovation/news/g46... Open Source Ecology is now…

Wow. I scanned through this entire thread, and haven't seen an automatic house plan generator. I saw one comment with a request, and no responses. The architecture industry is enormous. Real estate is enormous. There's no automatic drawing, electrical, plumbing, insulation, ect... generators given specifications? I'm kind of amazed no one's trying to disrupt that. "Hi Stable Diffusion, please draw me blueprints for a…

I built a house (or more correctly I paid a company to build one for me).

The initial design could be done using an interactive tool that you can use. This is not different from web tools used to design a kitchen. I also think IKEA uses one.

I live in Scandinavia so it is probably different from what you know.

The company designing the house took our drawings and ideas and created drawings and an excel sheet they used to calculate the price of the project. A tool to do this would be valuable and same the customer some time ad I would be able to do most of the work designing the layout.

After the contract is signed the company would make proper plans used for building the house etc..

The complexity of the whole project is enormous but the initial planning would be a good fit for an interactive tool.

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