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Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

#221
Kids need to learn restraint and self-control before open-ended device usage. Let them figure out how to be bored first. Set time limits, teach them what healthy usage is.

We didn't start time screen time for our kid until ~6. We required a log entry to be written so it's purpose driven, not mindless usage.

Re: Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

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Parent of three ranging from tween to college age. We have never had limits on anything. Screen time/content unrestricted. Probably dozens of times, maybe hundreds, we have had "the talk" about how there's a lot of weird shit in the world, internet included, and it's better to know about that stuff and how to deal with it than to create a temporary secure enclave at home where it doesn't exist. We especially didn't w…

I am an adult and while I was a child, our father turned off TV and cable access. He connected internet for a while but later disconnected that down as well. Needless to say, now I am older, it's very hard for me to moderate my film-viewing and internet-using habits. And I have always been wondering, was it because I wasnt allowed to moderate myself when I was little that I cant rid myself addiction? Nowadays, the on…

Or maybe your father had an addictive personality that he had dealt with in the past before having you, and he wanted to nip it in the bud in case he had passed it down to you (yes, addictive personality is heritable)

Re: Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

#223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the more important thing is fostering your children to have other interests - when the electronics are given just to make a kid shut up it can eventually become their "real" parents. When parents are active and make an effort to show their children other activities and find what they're interested in, the electronics won't be as enticing. Maybe that requires a child having some built in proclivity towards som…

Like I said in another comment, phones and tablets are portable slot machines. Gambling wins over "other interests" every time.

That can't be true. If it were, no kid with access would have other interests.

Re: Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

#224
People are arguing opposite approaches without mentioning the obvious:

There isn't a one-size-fits-all best practice. Every kid is different. Some can self-moderate; others can be ruined. Similar to gambling, alcohol, or other addictions.

Age is also a big factor. Entertaining your 2 year old with an iPad will probably lead to worse outcomes than for a 15-year-old.

Just because something worked for your kid -- that doesn't mean it will work for all kids. Hope this is obvious, yet nobody is stating it.

Re: Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

#225
post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am an adult and while I was a child, our father turned off TV and cable access. He connected internet for a while but later disconnected that down as well. Needless to say, now I am older, it's very hard for me to moderate my film-viewing and internet-using habits. And I have always been wondering, was it because I wasnt allowed to moderate myself when I was little that I cant rid myself addiction? Nowadays, the on…

Or maybe your father had an addictive personality that he had dealt with in the past before having you, and he wanted to nip it in the bud in case he had passed it down to you (yes, addictive personality is heritable)

Nope, he does not have any addiction that I know of. He can easily pass time without doing things he mostly does and enjoys. His decision mostly stems from other parents (his friends) suggesting him to cut TV.

Re: Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

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post #213
post #98

Parent of three ranging from tween to college age. We have never had limits on anything. Screen time/content unrestricted. Probably dozens of times, maybe hundreds, we have had "the talk" about how there's a lot of weird shit in the world, internet included, and it's better to know about that stuff and how to deal with it than to create a temporary secure enclave at home where it doesn't exist. We especially didn't w…

Sorry to be so blunt but are you advocating for letting developing minds get addicted? I hear expert after expert talking about the negative effects of those types of behavior and content. When you say they crashed a thousand times, what does that mean? Months without sleep, streaks of failure in school? I'm curious if moderation means that they are now using devices less than 7 hours a day which seems to be the aver…

Can you cite those experts? I am genuinely asking because the research I've seen is mostly mixed and inconclusive but does lean more towards what OP is saying.

There are tons of articles that say screen time is bad, social media is bad, etc etc... and I suppose you can always find some expert to support those claims, but in terms of actual scientific research, actual experiments, the fear of social media and Internet addiction in general has no more basis today than addiction to TV or video games or even music had in the past, and yes, "experts" in the past went after music as well claiming that it corrupted young kids minds.

Re: Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

#227
post #98

Parent of three ranging from tween to college age. We have never had limits on anything. Screen time/content unrestricted. Probably dozens of times, maybe hundreds, we have had "the talk" about how there's a lot of weird shit in the world, internet included, and it's better to know about that stuff and how to deal with it than to create a temporary secure enclave at home where it doesn't exist. We especially didn't w…

you wouldn't let a three-year-old walk across a busy street by himself. the reason why is, he's not capable of handling that yet. same for lots of other things, too.

Re: Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

#228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’re in a similar boat and have never set limits. Our two kids have learned to self moderate. They both like technology but get bored after a period of time and move on to other activities. We also encourage other activities with cub scouts, play dates, gymnastics, swim lessons and of course occasionally have to be strict with prioritizing homework. I give my partner credit for facilitating most of this. Maybe we’re…

For every one of these anecdotes there's another where the kid got unrestricted access and is now incapable of going anywhere or doing anything without having their tablet with them, and is chronically addicted to the screen at nearly every waking moment, to their extreme detriment in school and social encounters. I have a family member like this.

Yep and what's worse is no parent is going to ever admit that they gave their child unlimited screen time and now their child is addicted. Anecdotes that exhibit this kind of asymmetry are effectively worthless.

Re: Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

#229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For every one of these anecdotes there's another where the kid got unrestricted access and is now incapable of going anywhere or doing anything without having their tablet with them, and is chronically addicted to the screen at nearly every waking moment, to their extreme detriment in school and social encounters. I have a family member like this.

I think the more important thing is fostering your children to have other interests - when the electronics are given just to make a kid shut up it can eventually become their "real" parents. When parents are active and make an effort to show their children other activities and find what they're interested in, the electronics won't be as enticing. Maybe that requires a child having some built in proclivity towards som…

Those other interests don't have a real chance to compete against endless YouTube etc, real life is just slower and gives less stimulation per second than the output of a whole industry trying to play their mind.

Re: Ask HN: How do you protect your children from internet addiction?

#230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like I said in another comment, phones and tablets are portable slot machines. Gambling wins over "other interests" every time.

That can't be true. If it were, no kid with access would have other interests.

Not all kids are the same. Not everyone gets gambling addicted either.
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