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For Germany: the NA beer from Wunderbraue tastes amazingly good
Most NA Radler are also fine. You can't taste the difference.
Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?
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Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?
#222I would usually (for years) have a glass or two of wine with dinner. I would tell myself it helped me relax and let go of the day; perhaps that was even the truth.
I was working my main job and 2 side projects. This ended up with me never having downtime. I ended up mentally exhausted.
Exhausted to the point where I felt empty and drained even before I had the drink. The wine just made it feel worse, robbed me of what little recovery I might have been able to glean from the evening.
After 4-5 months (dropped the side gigs) I'm starting to feel rested again, and sometimes have wine with dinner. But I'm also just as happy to give it a miss.
Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?
#223I've found it easy to stop a great deal of such behaviors by examining not what they promise to deliver, but what they actually brought. I.e. don't look forward, look backward when making decisions. Alcohol promises a great time. Alcohol delivers a hangover and regrets. Junk food promises a great time. Junk food delivers poor health and regrets. Going to the gym promises hardship and struggle. It delivers health. I'v…
I agree overall it's great advice. But it's also very boring. And maybe not everyone needs it, but letting go, breaking your own & other moral rules, at times can be a very benificial thing.
I think SO many people overlook this very fact. Most people don't need alcohol to have a good time however it's called a "social lubricant" for a reason.
Sometimes people just need a tiny push to become less self conscious or less introverted. Life is short. You can spend years trying to be healthy and perfect but you need to ask yourself whether you're happy while doing that. If the answer is "Yes" then great. If it's "No" then you should reevaluate your path.
Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?
#224I've cut back by switching to non-alcohol beer. I've found that I enjoy the taste of beer, but I don't enjoy how shitty alcohol makes me feel. NA beer tends to solve that for me. Lots of good options coming out. * Just the Hazy by Sam Adams is top tier. * Athletic brewing is solely NA beer - lots of different varieties. * Heineken 0.0 is great * O'Douls amber is surprisingly passable as well I suspect the options wil…
Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?
#225> I’m not drinking
say
> I don’t drink
This is a small change in thinking that has a surprisingly large effect for a lot of people. Hope it helps
Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?
#226Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?
#227My anecdote, I've come to believe that alcohol, besides its short term and well known effects, also has some sort of mid-to-long term low-level psychedelic effects where it distorts your sense of reality as to think everything in a slightly more negative way, increasingly so the further you are from your last dosage, so that it makes itself relevant again as a relief from those symptoms.
I realized this after quitting for a long time, where my mood had significantly improved and i had a very beautiful daily routine, some days i would slip and have one beer or one wine when hanging out with friends (even though i didn't need it, mainly because my feelings of social anxiety had disappeared along with quitting alcohol and honestly i was having so much more fun being sober) thinking that it's fine and it won't do anything to me. Besides not enjoying its flavor at all anymore and getting annoyingly dizzy, the next days something had happened. I didn't experience the very same routine the same way. As if something bleak and dark was lurking in my psyche. I can't explain it but it was completely foreign to me at that point to feel like that so i noticed. Then i realized, oh this is how i used to feel all the time when i was consuming alcohol. Those feelings disappeared after 3 days of consuming a single beer and i was back to normal again, happy. Months later i would slip again, and the same process would repeat. 2-3 days of bleak gloom, then back to normal. That would happen a few times more as i don't really put too much pressure on myself, but now honestly i can't even smell it. A sip of wine or beer brings me disgust so there's nothing to it. I enjoy my nights out more, i dance more, i have more energy, i'm more social, people think i'm on cocaine or ecstasy and they're surprised when i tell them I've been only drinking club mate. Caffeine is a fantastic alternative. No weird paranoias, no weird drunk behavior, aware, not stupid, no dark days, no hangovers. Next day, feeling better than the night before.
Really, my opinion is that alcohol is the biggest scam that exists. It eats your life for nothing. No benefits. Only detriments. I have zero contacts left from the days i used to drink. Noone was my friend, they were addiction buddies with mostly bad behavior. The amount of experience that i'm able to digest with a bright head is so much more fulfilling and lasting that it's like i was a zombie back then and now i am alive. I can't express how lucky i am to have left that era and that self behind. It was trash compared to how i feel now. I strongly suggest that you get rid of it completely and forever.
Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?
#228Whenever tempted I focus completely on the fact I never regret not having drunk anything. That I will feel great having clear head.
It’s the opposite from imagining a certainty of lost sleep, fuzzy head, and feeling the subconscious worry I will hedonistically miss out on anything.
The key is two things:
1. to realize how certain you can be, 100% for practical purposes. Absolute.
2. And that not drinking is the hedonistically best choice. It’s not about withholding some pleasure from myself, it’s about not letting anything get in the way of my all day clear headed pleasure.
3. So I absolutely, with complete certainty, know I will not regret, not having the drink in front of me.
My interest in alcohol keeps instantiating further below where I think any discipline I have is.
I hope that makes some sense and helps someone.
Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?
#229I've found it easy to stop a great deal of such behaviors by examining not what they promise to deliver, but what they actually brought. I.e. don't look forward, look backward when making decisions. Alcohol promises a great time. Alcohol delivers a hangover and regrets. Junk food promises a great time. Junk food delivers poor health and regrets. Going to the gym promises hardship and struggle. It delivers health. I'v…