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Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

#221

It drives ad revenue. Content quality doesn't matter, only you watching as much ad's as possible. I've switched to using Yewtu.be, it's a proxy where you can have subscriptions and, for instance, only see new content, chronologically, from your subscriptions. Does make it a bit harder to find new stuff, but at least no spam. And the search seems less spammy too, not sure.

Why not just using the "subscriptions" tab in the official YouTube app? It does exactly that. What's the difference?

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

#222

The moment a platform start the "monetization war" and have some "influencers" working for them and get traction... that moment will kill/bury original and honest content made from passion and not "to make a living, to win $". The same way blogs died long ago, remember all the craze about having a blog, affiliate links, earn a living blabla People jumped in.. and so advertisers.. and so 'they killed Kenny" Imagine YT…

If only I can find articles. There are a lot of people who know how to do something interesting, but they are not writing articles they are recording videos. I prefer written articles, but often I can't find anything, but I can find videos on youtube. Or maybe it is just that search for articles has the same problem?

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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post #135

Youtube start reminding me a video platform from 3rd world country. There was this "look&feel" difference where you have more expensive less-adds and good quality. That was their competitive advantage. Right now everything desperately optimized for money. That's how platform dies. They don't know how to grow organically. They become no different. Just another video hosting.

I haven’t seen a YouTube ad in over six years. Seriously the best couple of dollars per month you can spend.

uBlock Origin and ReVanced are the best 0€ I've ever spent. Getting a good deal on YouTube premium apparently requires a VPN to Argentina or something.

It's certainly unwatchable with the ads, as I was reminded when I actually opened up the YouTube app on my TV instead of just mirroring my laptop's screen. Not gonna do that again.

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

#225

YouTubers have become more professional and post a large number of videos optimized for monetization (trendy videos, videos around 10 minutes long with additional ads inserted in the video, etc.). In addition, in order to maximize advertising revenue, YouTube tends to place more importance on new click-bait videos that have a rapid increase in views, rather than high quality videos that can be viewed over a long peri…

> trendy videos, videos around 10 minutes long with additional ads inserted in the video, etc

This is why we need user-controlled recommendations. I want that shit blocked.

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best part of YouTube recommendations - side bar recommendations - have been broken for at least 7-9 years. I remember going on deep YouTube rabbit holes in another era, because their recommendations always pointed to new, highly related content. Then, at some point in time, YouTube switched their recommendations algorithm to direct me to a mixture of 1) videos (mostly on unrelated topics) that I've already viewed…

> There are other things that drive me nuts about YouTube's recommendations, like the fact that they will never recommend me the next part of a n-part video. If I'm watching part 2/3 of something, please show 3/3 in the side bar, YouTube! It used to do that, though! They should at least allow it up to a limit or something rather than making it just that stupid. My other biggest complaint really is the recommendation…

The x/n videos are mostly - not all obviously but mostly - pirated copyrighted content in shortened clips, reversed or mirrored, shrunk, made more high pitch, or something to beat the algorithm. I agree it would be nice but I see why they broke that functionality.

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

#227

It drives ad revenue. Content quality doesn't matter, only you watching as much ad's as possible. I've switched to using Yewtu.be, it's a proxy where you can have subscriptions and, for instance, only see new content, chronologically, from your subscriptions. Does make it a bit harder to find new stuff, but at least no spam. And the search seems less spammy too, not sure.

Why not just using the "subscriptions" tab in the official YouTube app? It does exactly that. What's the difference?

It comes with all the baggage of using a big tech-provided application

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

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post #204

Recommendation system is long time broken. I am subscribed to 100+ channels and check 10 channels on a weekly basis, meaning I watch all the new videos these creators make. So that means I want the new stuff from the frequented ones on my front page ASAP. Yet, it's a hit and miss. From the remaining 90 channels I never get anything recommended. Why? If I subscribe to a new channel it gets recommended like hell, then…

The best part of YouTube recommendations - side bar recommendations - have been broken for at least 7-9 years. I remember going on deep YouTube rabbit holes in another era, because their recommendations always pointed to new, highly related content. Then, at some point in time, YouTube switched their recommendations algorithm to direct me to a mixture of 1) videos (mostly on unrelated topics) that I've already viewed…

I actually think the sidebar recommendations for a given video (at least for music) are still quite good. It's only when it starts taking into account your watch history does it start to get muddied up very fast. I wonder if there's an addon/userscript plugin that can wipe cookies upon every page refresh for a "pure" YouTube experience every time.

Re: Ask HN: Why has quality of YouTube reduced drastically?

#229

Machine learning probably had something to do with it. It notices videos with thumbnails of people with their mouths and eyes wide open doing some kind of shocked expression with red arrows pointing to something perform better than average. Then it starts recommending videos with thumbnails like this preferentially. YouTubers take notice and start producing thumbnails like this for every video. Go to the front page r…

When I was playing WoW, it was hard to find, for example, "guide to blackwing lair". It would be way down the page, below videos always titled "shocked reaction to Blackwing lair boss kill", "streamer reacts to BWL speedrun".

That shit is the fucking worst. 10 results down it gives you the "People also watched" and "For You" categories before it resumes listing what you fucking searched for. Can you imagine 20 years ago trying to build a search engine and explaining that you should insert search results that people didn't fucking search for?
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