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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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I was in the same boat. I switched to https://logseq.com/ + Google Drive. Markdown based so there's no issue with being locked in at least.

Second that, I switched from

- Joplin (Nextcloud sync)

- org-mode (Nextcloud sync)

finally to Logseq (org format, not md) and Nextcloud sync. It feels like I found a solid note taking / life organising / knowledge management solution for me now.

As soon as mobile is working as well I am set for a long time.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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I migrated from Evernote to Microsoft OneNote. If I was 10 years younger or still an engineer I would have experimented with a 'roll your own' FOSS option but these days I'm an exec and I just need my notes to be stable, dependable, easily accessible etc. OneNote is essentially free, it's Microsoft's gateway to get people to come back into their ecosystem and you obviously know it's going to be well maintained, high…

Joplin is a solid alternative for me. You can also spin your own cloud or just buy a bit of space.

I tried Joplin, but sync from desktop to mobile happens on a fixed interval instead of syncing automatically when you make changes. That was a blocker for me because a lot of basic use cases involve switching between devices:

- Create a workout on my laptop, then walk to the back yard and follow it on my phone while taking additional notes.

- Create a packing checklist for a trip on my desktop, then walk around the house with the list in my hand, checking off what I have already so I know what I need to buy.

- Scan a tax form to my Taxes notebook on my phone and then go back to my laptop where I'm using Turbotax.

Evernote has worked for these use cases for a long time.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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post #165

I migrated from Evernote to Microsoft OneNote. If I was 10 years younger or still an engineer I would have experimented with a 'roll your own' FOSS option but these days I'm an exec and I just need my notes to be stable, dependable, easily accessible etc. OneNote is essentially free, it's Microsoft's gateway to get people to come back into their ecosystem and you obviously know it's going to be well maintained, high…

Joplin is a solid alternative for me. You can also spin your own cloud or just buy a bit of space.

Thanks. Never heard of Joplin. Its OpenSource, uses E2E encryption and says that the notes are stored in an open format. Deffo need to do some research

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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post #123

I used Evernote 5-6 years ago. It was a decent product but somehow I lost a note once. I deleted the app and never tried it again. A few months later my wife went through the same experience. I now use the iOS Notes app. It’s good enough, including the sharing feature.

I would like to know if iOS notes has reasonable export/interoperability features these days, because last time I looked it certainly didn’t, unless you fancied doing PDF exports for every note manually.

You can export multiple notes at once (PDF or HTML) on macOS.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

Seen it first with Nero Burning ROM

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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While I cannot comment on what changed in Evernote, eventually someone unhelpfully will ask you "WHAT? You didn't have backup?!", which is kind of a legit question. Until then, on Evernote's Tos [1] scroll down to "What Else Do I Need to Know?" and read point f) of section "YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE That". In summary, it says they are not in any way reaponsible for your data loss. Reading in-between the line…

A backup of... what sounds like a newly-created note?

I bet it wasn’t even cold before it got wasted in a cache glitch.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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post #113

Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

Obsidian. It's markdown based, so simple at the base, but you can go wild with plugins ( including latex, graph visualisations, dynamic queries across notes, etc.), and it supports metadata, tags, etc. if you want to. You can sync with anything supporting text files ( Git, Dropbox, Google Drive, etc) or pay a bit for their ens to end encrypted service that works great.

I just wish the Obsidian sync features were better. I often end up with two copies of the same note when switching between devices.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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post #165

I migrated from Evernote to Microsoft OneNote. If I was 10 years younger or still an engineer I would have experimented with a 'roll your own' FOSS option but these days I'm an exec and I just need my notes to be stable, dependable, easily accessible etc. OneNote is essentially free, it's Microsoft's gateway to get people to come back into their ecosystem and you obviously know it's going to be well maintained, high…

> My take on Evernote is that they never managed to properly monetize it. I was a single user, not in a team, didn't need shared notes or chat functionality and there was no need for me to pay for it... until they decided to arbitrarily limit the number of devices you could use your account on which is just such a shitty approach because we all know there's no actual cost to servicing three devices vs two. In other words the only thing they could do to get me to pay for it was hobble my UX until I coughed up. Sorry, no thanks

Asking people to pay for a non-crippled experience makes sense to me. The behavior I want from a note-taking app is not conducive to any other way of monetizing my usage. For a long time Evernote wouldn't face up to that, and a result, they didn't value their product or their users. I used to take backups obsessively because every day I half-expected Evernote to shut down their servers, because they couldn't figure out how to turn it into a social network or a business collaboration platform. Now at least they seem to have settled down and accepted what their product is.

I click on virtually every headline I see about note-taking apps because Evernote has done plenty over the years to alienate me. I'd love to switch. But I don't want to run the infrastructure myself, and I don't want to be anyone's free user. I'm keeping an eye on Joplin, but for now, Evernote is the best for my purposes.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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post #89

Don't trust proprietary software. Stuff like this will always be a possibility. Syncthing + your text editor of choice (vim in termux on android is actually pretty good, imo) is a reliable bet. Emacs with org-mode could be used in a similar way. I'm sure there are other combinations as well.

Stuff like this is always a possibility with free software too. I'm still bitter about KDE4.

GNOME3 for me.
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