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Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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post #180

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Why? Most users don't want them. And for those that do, there's https://www.hnreplies.com/ , as well as other options mentioned elsewhere here.

Agreed. In fact, I'd like to see HN go even further and close discussions after some limit has been reached, whether it's time- or attention-based.

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Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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post #180

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Why? Most users don't want them. And for those that do, there's https://www.hnreplies.com/ , as well as other options mentioned elsewhere here.

Agreed. In fact, I'd like to see HN go even further and close discussions after some limit has been reached, whether it's time- or attention-based.

It looks like they already do, at around 14 days.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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post #153
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This has been addressed by dang before, one representative pastequote from a recent (ish) comment: Yes, I think we'll continue to avoid the notification system, not just because of flamewars but also because (relatedly) it's not so compatible with curiosity. Push notifications seem to jack up the nervous system in a way that's good for engagement but not necessarily for users—we all experience this elsewhere on the i…

Then provide a daily or weekly digest. What's the point in contributing to a black hole with no feedback?

Generally, the people who the site was built for have nothing to prove, but everything to learn, and optimize accordingly.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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Yeah as a reddit troll myself I enjoy the freedom of never caring and pursuing flaming here... people like me get addicted to the reaction and start writing only to trigger reactions. Here at least I post constructively sometimes.

Given you're aware of doing this, could you take some action to prevent it?

Well, they're here now, right?

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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post #153

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Then provide a daily or weekly digest. What's the point in contributing to a black hole with no feedback?

Generally, the people who the site was built for have nothing to prove, but everything to learn, and optimize accordingly.

A lot of assumptions being made there. People can desire discourse without wanting to prove anything.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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One of the few things that I like about HN is that when someone responds to your comment you are not necessarily supposed to reply to that, definitely not the only one. I don't think it is by design, but anyhow it has come to be as such. Sometimes you don't even have to respond, or anyone for that matter. Not having a notification system adds in this.

PS. Visible karma system is one of the worst things on HN and among many that I don't like. It has no place to be here. At the very least it ought not to be exposed on profiles and comments.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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post #38

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I used to do that, but you can just click "threads".

How does that differ from the "Comments" link in the user profile page?

It doesn't. It's the same exact page.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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post #85

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No, it's not If you ask a question, and I happen to see it a couple days later and can answer it, why would you not want to see said answer?

An edge case like that isn't really the point. I mean, what percentage of "responses to old comments" fall into that bucket? My guess is that it's a very small percentage. Weighed against the "propagating / encouraging low-value flame wars" possibility, I absolutely consider the lack of such notifications to a Good Thing. Especially considering somebody who's particularly motivated to find delayed answers to specific…

Since "low-value flame wars" are already explicitly against the community guidelines, using that as the argument against notifications is like banning knives because they are potential murder weapons. And then having people defend that decision as a "good thing" that we can't cut vegetables.

You can already flag inappropriate content. We don't have to fear it.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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post #205

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...says the person replying to a comment ;)

Allowing comments on a news aggregator doesn't mean it's a forum. The fact that HN purposely doesn't have much of the standard functionality of a forum should clue you in to the fact that it isn't one.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/forum#Noun

forum, noun: An Internet message board where users can post messages regarding one or more topics of discussion.

HN is clearly a forum.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't HN alert users in some manner to new replies?

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There are many times I don't reply to a comment that is multiple days old simply because nobody is going to read it. In my experience, the "hot takes" are often low quality comments. Quality comments take time and thought, and HN isn't conducive for that.

I’ve replied to multiple days old comments and been replied to in turn. I think when you do this you’re not performing for an audience but responding to another person or couple of people individually. The fact not many people are going to see it should be irrelevant - is a piece of art (or a notebook doodle) not worth doing because it has an audience of one?

I didn't phrase it correctly. What I meant was, I want to continue an old comment thread, but then I wonder if its worth doing since the other party probably isn't going to respond or even know that I replied.
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