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Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?

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Post by muzani » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 3:00 AM UTC

ageitgey wrote: post #47

YouTube is a huge technical achievement that would require billions of dollars to replicate: 1. It consumes nearly unlimited bandwidth. 2. It consumes nearly unlimited CPU for transcoding and serving media at different bitrates. 3. It consumes massive resources to police, from user moderation to appeasing content owners by building systems and databases like ContentID, etc. 4. It generates endless PR and legal headac…

There's plenty of free porn sites that didn't require billions of dollars to do and they were subject to all of the above restrictions.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?

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Post by nprateem » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 7:41 AM UTC

It was first. Read Positioning by Reis for why this matters and why nothing will ever beat YouTube head on.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?

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Post by bullen » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 7:47 AM UTC

SahAssar wrote: post #214

bullen wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It requires much less energy, and we need to virtualize life completely, only food, sleep and toilet will be in meatspace, everything else will be a open (so you can modify and resell) action (think super mario galaxy) 3D MMO with 1000s of players per server!

If you want to live in the metaverse, fine, but don't claim that it's the only "meaningful" thing.

Also the metaverse is meaningless, what we need is action (as I said; super mario galaxy, but 1000s of players) and the current definition of metaverse talks more about virtual things and economies.

And now since Zuckerberg is cybersquatting the term we need to find a new one.

How about "the internet", wadda ya say?

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?

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Post by gwbas1c » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 2:25 PM UTC

randomdata wrote: post #88

gwbas1c wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The content may have matured, but has YouTube really changed? I always thought the point was to make it easy for anyone to publish an original video? (And then to make it easy for anyone to watch the video.)

> but has YouTube really changed? Unquestionably. If you recall, YouTube originally made its mark by having pirated copies of the SNL Lazy Sunday skit floating around, which quickly saw it become recognized it as the place to watch all kinds of pirated TV shows. Eventually they started enforcing duration limits to quash people uploading entire episodes, but it wasn't until the content ID system was implemented that i…

Strange, I've been peeking at YouTube since the beginning and I almost never used it for pirated content.

Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?

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Post by dorkwood » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 2:37 PM UTC

mattl wrote: post #12

Vimeo is the only thing that comes close. All the open source offerings lack the dedicated apps for dedicated media players. To be a serious alternative you’d need apps for Apple TV, Android TV, Roku plus iOS and Android and a solid desktop browser.

I think Vimeo was once going after a similar market, but lately they seem to be distancing themselves from individual content creators. Their landing page, for example, describes their offering as "simple tools for any professional, team, and organization to create, manage, and share high-quality videos".

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Post by randomluck040 » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:38 PM UTC

dorkwood wrote: post #225

mattl wrote: post #12

Vimeo is the only thing that comes close. All the open source offerings lack the dedicated apps for dedicated media players. To be a serious alternative you’d need apps for Apple TV, Android TV, Roku plus iOS and Android and a solid desktop browser.

I think Vimeo was once going after a similar market, but lately they seem to be distancing themselves from individual content creators. Their landing page, for example, describes their offering as "simple tools for any professional, team, and organization to create, manage, and share high-quality videos".

Sometimes I can find stuff in Vimeo that’s not available anywhere else. There was dailymotion, I don’t know about the state of it but back in the day it looked like it might have been a competitor to YouTube, too.