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Re: Ask HN: How to learn sales?

#221
As an engineer/YC founder turned B2B go-to-market/sales leader, I can attest that it's hard to learn sales without jumping in and doing it. That said, a few things helped me along the way:

1) I found a mentor that I could relate too, one that did exactly what I was trying to do (an aside, I ended up joining a company called Boomtrain and learned how to sell while helping him build product -- this hybrid role evolved into starting and running their Solutions Engineering team.)

2) Be OK with being uncomfortable; a lot of sales is about putting yourself out there -- you're going to get rejection, but you start to learn how to place your bets and work in the opportunities that have the highest likelihood of closing (and therefore can be well-forecasted.) This is where a sales methodology helps. Calvin (the CTO of Segment) wrote this amazing blog post about about what we use on our Sales team: https://segment.com/blog/how-to-sell-a-b2b-product/

3) Spend the time building a defined process, whether it's generating top of the funnel/leads, moving deals through sales stages, and even a deal-desk process for inking MSAs/contracts. Invest in a CRM (I suggest Salesforce) to log everything and provide visibility on your business, while helping to manage the pipeline.

Happy to share more details about my journey so far.

Re: Ask HN: How to learn sales?

#222
It is a mix of a lot of things, such as - listening and asking the right questions.

I don't think one book or guru can give you all the answers. You pick things up along the way by learning and doing.

Couple of my favourites:

1. “When someone says no, I ask the same question a different way.”. Ryan Serhant 2. Sales is a process and when you don't have a process you have a problem. - My Co-Founder 3. You have to listen more than you speak, you have two ears for a reason

Bonus - Sell the sausage, not the sizzle.

Re: Ask HN: How to learn sales?

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As an engineer turned founder, your instinct to jump in and start doing it is correct. It’s hard to learn from books. I never did, neither did the successful engineers turned sales people that I know. The key is learning to read each situation so you can apply the right approach. You also seem self aware which will help you learn faster. My biggest advice is get a coach/mentor/consultant who you talk with once per we…

I'm also a YC founder (Py) and worked with Mitch. He's been an invaluable mentor to me not just in sales but also in general COO advice. Could not recommend working with him enough. It is a Privilege to get to work with him. He has a wealth of experience that make his monthly rate easy easy ROI.

We went from literally $0k ARR to high 6-figure ARR in 8 months before getting acquired. He taught me everything I know about SaaS sales.

Mitch was recommended to me originally by Peter, CEO/Co-founder at Segment.

Re: Ask HN: How to learn sales?

#224
If plan to sell to corporations I highly recommend "How Winners Sell" (https://www.amazon.com/How-Winners-Sell-Strategies-Competiti...) Its theoretical enough that you will understand why you have to do somethings but practical enough that you will know what to do.

For sales motivation, I love the "Little Red Book of Sales" (https://www.amazon.com/Little-Red-Book-Selling-Principles/dp...) for when you need to kick you own behind...

Re: Ask HN: How to learn sales?

#225

Engineer here, who has learned marketing and sales on the job. Marketing in 1-to-many. Sales is 1-to-1. So sales generally only makes sense in the context of B2B, not if you are selling $30 B2C software. Sales isn't that hard (afterall sales people can do it!). Talk to the right people, find out what they want, ask for the sale (if appropriate). Don't take it personally if they don't buy.

Talk to the right people is key.

Qualification is one of the most important skills to hone in sales. Are you wasting time with a tire kicker? Someone without actual purchasing authority. Wants to buy but doesn't have budget this fiscal year. Do you know the customer's fiscal year? Do you know the purchasing process at the client? I have seen many deals fouled by procurement and legal even though the buyer is ready to go.

Re: Ask HN: How to learn sales?

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Has jumped into that boat with the identical background a couple month ago. Here some resources I found useful to do first B2B sales and get a general understanding of the process. 1. Peter Levine course of sales for tech entrepreneurs https://a16z.com/2018/09/02/sales-startups-technical-founder... 2. Steve Blank's 4 steps to the epiphany https://www.amazon.com/Four-Steps-Epiphany-Steve-Blank/dp/09... 3. Close.io Saa…

What is an educational feedback loop and how can one accelerate it?

study -> try selling -> fail -> study

or the better one:

study -> try selling -> success -> study even more

My claim is you don't have to do, say, MBA to study sales.

Re: Ask HN: How to learn sales?

#228

This is honestly THE BEST, all-in-one resource I found for the exact same question I had - https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57daf6098419c27febcd4... Secondly, follow Close.com blog, there is tons of great sales insight, and download their Startup Sales Resource Bundle - https://close.io/resources/startup-sales-resource-bundle Thirdly, watch Steli Efti's keynote about startup selling https://www.youtube.com/watc…

wow that was a wormhole. thanks for these. spent half of my day, but i have a much better understanding now what I'm dealing with.

Re: Ask HN: How to learn sales?

#229
I’ve been in sales for over 20 years and the one thing that helped me the most and continues to set me apart is the 6 terrible months I sold cars at a Honda dealership.

It’s the worst kind of sales, but it teaches you the sales process, and most importantly it’s humbling when someone you consider intellectual inferior outperforms you time after time. Sales is not about intellect, it’s about building relationships and solving problems.

Re: Ask HN: How to learn sales?

#230

Oh boy - I didn't realize a question could be so topical. Another first-time founder here (engineer turned founder) that is currently in the middle of learning how to do the b2b sales process (which I'm assuming is what you're doing, if you're interested in b2c, I'm not sure how much of this translates). Needless to say that: (1) I'm most certainly NOT an expert (just someone figuring this out as well); (2) I'm super…

thank you for sharing this helpful information
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