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Re: Ask HN: What VPN service are you currently using?

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I'm using Freedome, which requires special software (best I can tell). I'm using it because it's made by F-Secure, and I know the F-Secure people from a long time ago. They have a large commercial business that would get seriously Kaperskied if it turned out they were knowingly doing anything wrong, and I've decided that that's the kind of incentive I want in a VPN provider.

It's actually just OpenVPN in the background. I've successfully used it with Linux, Windows and Android without the official apps.

Re: Ask HN: What VPN service are you currently using?

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post #214

I apologise if this is unhelpful: but none. I trust the (more than not at all) regulated space of ISPs in my country more than I do the unregulated space of people running VPNs out of their basements. It's important to be clear: you're just moving trust from one entity (your ISP) to another (the company / human who runs the VPN). It's not clear to me why the VPN people are more trustworthy than ISPs.

It's interesting that you paint ISPs, which have been constantly and repeatedly caught collaborating with governments, selling your data to advertisers, intruding in your communications, infringing your privacy, etc., it's interesting that you paint them as professional regulated companies, while VPN providers with credentials as "running in someone's basement".

Re: Ask HN: What VPN service are you currently using?

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post #220
post #214

I apologise if this is unhelpful: but none. I trust the (more than not at all) regulated space of ISPs in my country more than I do the unregulated space of people running VPNs out of their basements. It's important to be clear: you're just moving trust from one entity (your ISP) to another (the company / human who runs the VPN). It's not clear to me why the VPN people are more trustworthy than ISPs.

What country do you live in?

I have lived in the UK and NZ.

Re: Ask HN: What VPN service are you currently using?

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post #214

I apologise if this is unhelpful: but none. I trust the (more than not at all) regulated space of ISPs in my country more than I do the unregulated space of people running VPNs out of their basements. It's important to be clear: you're just moving trust from one entity (your ISP) to another (the company / human who runs the VPN). It's not clear to me why the VPN people are more trustworthy than ISPs.

It's interesting that you paint ISPs, which have been constantly and repeatedly caught collaborating with governments, selling your data to advertisers, intruding in your communications, infringing your privacy, etc., it's interesting that you paint them as professional regulated companies, while VPN providers with credentials as "running in someone's basement".

"interesting", used in this context, implies that I am perhaps a shadowy figure in the nefarious employ of "big ISP". Would that it were so simple!

My opinion is not that ISPs are correctly regulated, or even well regulated, but that they have more than zero amounts of regulation applied to them. They also tend to be larger and slower to do things like collapse and rename themselves. This leads them, in my mind, to be better than a VPN company by default.

By default, mind: certain people may have certain use cases that propel a VPN over an ISP. For example, I am friends with people who live in countries that need VPNs to bypass ISPs controlled by dictatorships / corrupt regimes (I'm being intentionally vague here). However, that is not most people, and IMO VPNs being more private than the average ISP is an illusion.

Re: Ask HN: What VPN service are you currently using?

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I personally use Freedome to get around geo-based blocking or when using open Wi-Fis.

I also have a self-hosted OpenVPN-server running at home, which I occasionally use for open Wi-Fi networks or getting around content blocking on some networks.

For day-to-day usage, I don't use a VPN. I place some trust on my ISP (both mobile and wired) to carry my traffic.

Re: Ask HN: What VPN service are you currently using?

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This might sound dumb. But, I use ProtonVPN because Mozilla partnered with them and I place trust in Mozilla’s ability to make a more informed choice than I can make — largely due to their access to information and on hand knowledge and expertise. https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2018/10/22/testing-n...

As much as I would like to support Mozilla, connecting to protonvpn.com with Firefox 65.0.1 throws me an insecure site error: Your connection is not secure The owner of protonvpn.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website. Doesn't inspire confidence.

Works for me. Same browser on Ubuntu LTS.

Re: Ask HN: What VPN service are you currently using?

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post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have 1GB fiber, do they offer 1GB speeds? How badly would using them as my VPN affect my speed?

IPsec at 1gbps needs a powerful router. A Juniper SRX 320 that I have can only can reach about 500mbps.

a pcengines apu does just fine, you'll get 900mbps+ easily with ipsec
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