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Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by crag »

nooyurrsdey wrote: post #63

For some reason people seem to constant doubt Ruby-ists and Rails Devs. I completely get that other languages have huge benefits over Ruby. Golang being compiled or Java running anywhere, etc... And ruby is slow, totally understood. But if youre talking about getting a functioning webapp up and running quickly ... no way anyone is beating a Rails dev in setting one up. The piping and scaffolding are all built in and…

Laravel. It's PHP and (assuming you know Laravel) you can get a it up in minutes. It's development time is as fast as Rails.

I'm not taking any chips from Rails. Rails was the first and is still one of the best. Just pointing out that there are other frameworks that are designed to move to production fast.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by Kimitri »

factsaresacred wrote: post #16

Zeit Now, without a doubt. 1. npm install -g now 2. run 'now' command in the folder containing your app files The files are uploaded, your app is deployed and your clipboard contains the URL. So simple it's like cheating. https://zeit.co/now

I was expecting to see more of Now in these comments. I don't have any real experience with it but it did seem like it would make deploying as simple as possible. Care to share any of your experiences with it?

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by 0xCMP »

iopuy wrote: post #207
0xCMP wrote: post #201

The easiest thing to do is Heroku. They've really nailed it down and the +$2/month for their basic instance is easily worth it if you don't want to spend the time getting everything setup. Automation requires infrastructure and infrastructure is cheap only if you know how to set it up. I run ~3 side projects using Heroku to host a Django project with a GraphQL API talking to Heroku Postgres and Netlify the host the R…

which token auth mechanism? Always curious to hear how others secure their endpoints.

I usually just reach for Django Rest Framework's token implementation. I know others use it so I figure it's good enough for something I'm just getting started with.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by iopuy »

slimshady94 wrote: post #82

Nodejs + Angular + Heroku. Surprised to see only 3-4 nodejs comments till now, compared to many more Go comments. Has the tide turned, is Go the new nodejs? :(

asking the same question i've asked all js-centric responses above... how do you handle authentication?

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by mmusc »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #38
guessmyname wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I second this; Go + React.js (Vue.js in my case) I talked about it just a couple of hours ago [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17215658

That's interesting... I think I'll spend a couple of days playing with Vue to see if I can get rid of Webpack and Babel, because they're an enormous pain to set up (especially as they keep changing their config schema every major version release - I think I've climbed Webpack's config learning cliff three times now).

Vue apps depends on webpack as well. But the vue-cli makes the whole set up a breeze. Especially v3 (currently in beta)

If the website you're building is simple you could even have vanilla html pages then attach vue to the divs that need that extra interactivity, then you won't any fancy loaders.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by eagsalazar2 »

crag wrote: post #213
eagsalazar2 wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually they do if they have to maintain it or want hire really good developers to maintain it. Not saying PHP doesn't meet those criteria, it might in a given region or situation, but just saying your dismissal of this consideration is way off base. Good luck hiring anyone passionate about good software development or recently graduating from decent CS department to work on your PHP apps. I'm sure you are a great d…

"plus PHP makes you a very uncommon find, right" What? Half the programmers I know in NYC write PHP. The other half write a combo of Java/C#/Python. These aren't programmers working for startups - they are working for companies and the government. PHP is used everywhere. Except maybe in SFO (and surrounding area). I mean look at the job listings for NYC, DC, Miami, Baltimore, Louisville, etc, etc. Look I know this bo…

Calling out the regional dimension to the popularity of PHP is totally valid. I think the thing I'm really reacting to is people repeatedly saying "the client doesn't care" which I vehemently disagree with.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by Kimitri »

I work at a Drupal shop so I'd probably just go with Drupal. Working with what you know is the fastest way to get stuff done. Drupal 8 is also quite a bit more elegant than the previous versions and the developer experience is pretty good nowadays.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by Andrenid »

The size of this discussion and the sheer number of different ways this can be done is mind boggling.

I'm all for having choices and I'm glad we're beyond choosing between FrontPage, Dreamweaver, and Notepad, but no wonder new people to web development are so overwhelmed.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by DatabaseGuy42 »

My answer is probably seen as unconventional on Hacker News, but keep an open mind and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

I suggest you sign up for a free account at https://apex.oracle.com/ to try out Application Express (APEX). It's a free, web-based development tool for building modern, responsive and secure web applications.

It's a mature product that has existed for around 18 years, and it has a long list of features, check out the list here: https://apex.oracle.com/en/platform/features/

Since all these features are built in, you don't need to go shopping for the usual mix of libraries, build tools, external services, etc. For 95% of what you want to build, it's all there already as part of the framework.

The best thing is that you can get started and be developing web applications within minutes on this platform, without writing a single line of code. Even though you start out with no code/low code, you can add as much code as you want and go to any complexity later. The framework doesn't stop you from going "full code".

There's also a great, friendly and vibrant APEX community that shares experiences, develop plugins and tools, etc. See https://apex.oracle.com/en/community/community-resources/

Also, if you are worried about vendor lockin (any more than AWS or Azure or Google or whatever "framework du jour" locks you in), it should be noted that you can download and use APEX for free on your own infrastructure (or a DigitalOcean droplet or whatever). Also, APEX can run on the Express Edition (XE) of Oracle, so you can build and deploy web apps without ever having to pay Oracle a single dollar.

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