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Position: Senior SDE Tenure: 6 years Job Level: 6 Base Pay: $141,000 2016 Stock Vest: 162 shares Review Score: Exceeds Gender: F Native English Speaker: Yes
IMHO you're being underpaid quite a bit with that base salary in the Seattle area. Time to start interviewing at Microsoft, Google, etc. Those companies usually start fresh out of college developers with a base pay a bit over $100k, then bonuses, stock awards, etc. on top.
Only on HN are these incredible compensation packages considered "underpaid". In the real world (outside FaceGoogAmaWallstreet), the story for developers is quite different.
Keep in mind also that Amazon is not some tiny startup strapped for cash. It's a big player in the industry and their hiring standards are rigorous.
A reminder to everyone that the National Labor Relations Act prohibits companies from firing employees for discussing their salaries: http://www.govdocs.com/can-employees-discuss-pay-salaries/
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One of my negotiation principles is "Don't disclose your current or desired salary" during the negotiation. With persistence, the recruiter or hiring manager will usually just move on. Another principle is that you should always counter. So I'm _extremely_ surprised to hear that 95% of the time, people have refused to continue talking with you. I can't refute your experience, but I can say this has never happened to…
> One of my negotiation principles is "Don't disclose your current or desired salary" during the negotiation. With persistence, the recruiter or hiring manager will usually just move on. Honestly, discussing desired salary is a good screening tool and when following advice like this I find ~50% of job applications are a waste of my time. So desired salary is an important filter if a job doesn't state the salary range…
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This simply isn't true. I received a >$30,000 raise at one of my previous employers after they realized that I was being grossly underpaid for the work I was doing. Granted, I had to bring my managers' attention to this, but they were understanding & did right by me.
Mind sharing what company this is? I'm 100% sure if I leave to go somewhere else and come back, I'll still make a lot more than sticking around. This is the unfortunate reality.
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> I am no longer ashamed to write these figures out to the public because I now make more than twice the salary that I was making before I left the company. You should be ashamed for thinking that money is this fucking important.
We've banned this account for breaking the HN guidelines.
The comment is a cricism to his (and pretty much everyone else's who uses this site) very materialistic world view.
If you really want to do this, start a Google spreadsheet.
A spreadsheet about Amazon salaries in Google Docs, or a spreadsheet about salaries at Google? (Or both?!)
(as mentioned above, this has already happened at Google)
Position: SDE III Tenure: almost 1 year Job level: 6 Base Pay: $150000 Signing bonus $50k year 1, $40k year 2 Stock: 450 shares, spread over 4 years, 5%/15%/40%/40% No promotions or reviews yet Gender: M Native English Speaker: Yes Location: Seattle
Wow, nice. Is Level 6 pretty high? What was your experience coming into the job?
I had 15+ years of experience before coming here.