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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone experimenting with different ways of using LLMs for coding?

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Post by satvikpendem »

weitendorf wrote: post #156
satvikpendem wrote: post #119

As Boris said, you shouldn't be manually prompting anymore but asking the AI to prompt itself, in the form of workflows. I usually have 3 to 5 different sessions running at once all autonomously.

IMO asking the AI to prompt itself, remind it to clean up other agents, tell it to monitor something and just hang there for hours, etc gets old really fast. If I had to pay the API rate to have one LLM rewrite what I just told it to another one, then have the main one get busy or start waiting for subagents rather than be something I actively steer, and come back to the subagent being either gone or left hanging for…

You don't ask it all that, it does it itself. You can also ask it to summarize all the instructions into a skill which it can then invoke on command. It really is not as much hassle as you're making it out to be.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone experimenting with different ways of using LLMs for coding?

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Post by satvikpendem »

strapchay wrote: post #127
satvikpendem wrote: post #119

As Boris said, you shouldn't be manually prompting anymore but asking the AI to prompt itself, in the form of workflows. I usually have 3 to 5 different sessions running at once all autonomously.

Funny but how do you then maintain orientation context? Except you’ve set strict parameters which then gets feed into the loop and which it uses to make decisions?

What do you mean orientation context? Personally I have a MD file I can edit for feature or bug requests and it periodically reads it and fixes the issues.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone experimenting with different ways of using LLMs for coding?

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Post by [deleted] »

OJFord wrote: post #72
jarodrh wrote: post #71

Orchestration works very well for me, but not in the way most people seem to be pushing for, with middlemen scoring and routing every request. For coding, the routing is mostly solved at the config level. The harness lets you pin models per role, and that covers most of what a per request router promises. On your actual question though, I think the loop you're describing does break the flow and gets very frustrating,…

Can you explain more how you 'pin models per role' 'at the config level'? And what a prompt looks like that uses that?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone experimenting with different ways of using LLMs for coding?

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Post by fragmede »

etdznots wrote: post #203
fragmede wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well no, you don't check it, you have notifications set up so it notifies you when it's waiting for you. If you don't want to hikevibecode, don't. No one's forcing you, who are you to yuck someone else's yum?

Isn’t yucking the yum of others the foundation of human society?

The foundations of society are cooperation, reciprocity, shared stories/norms, and social enforcement. Yucking someone's yum falls under that last category.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone experimenting with different ways of using LLMs for coding?

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Post by jarodrh »

OJFord wrote: post #72
jarodrh wrote: post #71

Orchestration works very well for me, but not in the way most people seem to be pushing for, with middlemen scoring and routing every request. For coding, the routing is mostly solved at the config level. The harness lets you pin models per role, and that covers most of what a per request router promises. On your actual question though, I think the loop you're describing does break the flow and gets very frustrating,…

Can you explain more how you 'pin models per role' 'at the config level'? And what a prompt looks like that uses that?

reactordev pretty much got it right. In the config, you say "this role uses this model". You decide up front which model handles which kind of task, instead of one model doing everything. All config driven.

You're not choosing a model every time you prompt. It's already set in your config. The main shift in the mind is writing prompts to a role rather than to a specific model.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone experimenting with different ways of using LLMs for coding?

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Post by MoralAlgorithm »

Pardon a first day comment but this intrigued me

TL;DR got meningitis in Nov 2020 and went from healthy old grey beard to acting like an 85 yr old with alzheimer's, I knew what I wanted to say but could not say it, fast forward to Nov 2022 and chatgpt came out, now I could hint at what I wanted and it filled in the blanks total game changer...

MY idea is: I bring the intent, the judgment, and the been-there context. The AI/llm fills the gaps I used to fill myself.

Now this old IT greybeard still can't compete with my old self but I will be damned if I can't get stuff done now..

My workflow is short notes, ideas, possible solutions, open questions to myself, I fill in my own answers to my own question (basic note taking 101)

Then I create a concrete goal of what I want and give my notes as "additional notes/data" and most of the time I have something that can be used with a few more tweaks or corrects then create a "/Plan" or "/grillme" session which aligns all the loose ends

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone experimenting with different ways of using LLMs for coding?

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Post by 12345hn6789 »

othmanosx wrote: post #68

That's how I code nowadays: 1. Start a session. 2. Grill my requirements. 3. Write an ADR, then either start implementing or separate into pieces. 4. Review the code on pyor.review, compared to Github, Pyor allows me to categorize the files and changes then review the important stuff and skim the noise it identifies. 5. Since I can do local reviews with Pyor, I can do that with Claude and feed back my comments to be…

(user othmanosx owns pyor)

whats the catch on pyor, how is it free?

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