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A GUI can be as effective as a TUI if it's designed to be 100% usable from a keyboard - the problem is very few applications take the time to do that design.
How do I implement type-ahead in Qt or GTK application?
Yeah I actually help out a friend's family business a lot and we recently had to fix the program for something. It's a foxpro application rewritten in '89 from an original dBase port from earlier in the 80s. I legit had to bust out radare2 and hexdump(analysis)/hex fiend(editing) in order to get the changes done because the original programmer passed away (RIP). Was quite the learning experience but I'm glad that thi…
What a lucky friend - you're a superhero.
Yeah I actually help out a friend's family business a lot and we recently had to fix the program for something. It's a foxpro application rewritten in '89 from an original dBase port from earlier in the 80s. I legit had to bust out radare2 and hexdump(analysis)/hex fiend(editing) in order to get the changes done because the original programmer passed away (RIP). Was quite the learning experience but I'm glad that thi…
> https://www.burtonsys.com/download/dbf2csv.php Man, this would have came in handy when I was trying to extract data from .dbf files. Ended up writing something in Go while referencing the dBase IV spec. Lots of trial and error as I recall.
Many (most?) older retail businesses still use TUIs. They're reliable, consistent, and orders of magnitude faster than GUI systems. When I worked ar Sherwin Williams, I got good enough with the TUI that customers could rattle off their orders while I punch it into the computer in real time. It's absolutely crazy that a well designed TUI is so much faster. It turns out that if you never change the UI and every menu it…
Bloomberg Terminal basically. And then because of muscle memory, it's so hard for users to get used to another system. And then they push it onto their juniors. And then you get to charge companies $250 per head to train juniors on how to use the system, with all of its textbased commands.
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Loads of woodworking is done on SketchUp version whatever that's pre-cloud licensing, dating from 2008 I believe. (Cloud aversion , if you will.) Picasa & Earth era desktop Google software.
A bit of searching turns up lots of references to SketchUp Make 2017. Could this be what you mean?
Most, if not all, Asian take-out / restaurants in NL still use a TUI for registering your order. Several motorcyle retailers in NL use a TUI for parts management, invoicing, repair tracking. In both cases, people operating these systems develop muscle memory for their everyday usage. I'm not sure if it's still in use, but for at least a decade since 2005 or so, the local university's student canteen used an in-house…
The Bloomberg Terminal uses several different UI methodologies depending on use case -- many functions (applications) are absolutely TUIs whereas Launchpad is more mouse-driven.
> In both cases, people operating these systems develop muscle memory for their everyday usage.
I worked as a UX designer at Bloomberg and when we had to modify existing functions we were careful to maintain shortcuts and keyboard navigation. In a couple cases we even ended up re-implementing UI bugs that one or more users had grown accustomed to. I've never worked anywhere quite so committed to backward UI compatibility, but that came at the expense of a steep learning curve.
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Also, Costco uses AS/400. Applications that are pure function over form are amazing
I'm not positive whether Target's system from ~15 years ago was a TUI, but a friend worked there in college. He mentioned the process for tax exempt purchases was a bit challenging/not the most common. There were some frequent shoppers who had heard the assistance from the manager enough times, they could walk an employee through what buttons to press to get it setup correctly.
Many (most?) older retail businesses still use TUIs. They're reliable, consistent, and orders of magnitude faster than GUI systems. When I worked ar Sherwin Williams, I got good enough with the TUI that customers could rattle off their orders while I punch it into the computer in real time. It's absolutely crazy that a well designed TUI is so much faster. It turns out that if you never change the UI and every menu it…
> It's absolutely crazy that a well designed TUI is so much faster. It turns out that if you never change the UI and every menu item always has the same hotkey, navigating the software becomes muscle memory and your speed is only limited by how fast you can physically push the buttons. Bloomberg Terminal basically. And then because of muscle memory, it's so hard for users to get used to another system. And then they…