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Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by endtime »

fuzzythinker wrote: post #198
ksec wrote: post #114

People who are a little late to the site may not know there was a time on HN where Erlang has even more frontage submission than the best of AI / LLM. Ruby Rails, Postgres, SQLite, Rust, etc. They all have their moments and I dont think LLM right now is as overwhelming as any other hyped moments. Certainly not Erlang.

That was very different. Somehow the entire front page was Erlang, but it was only for a day or 2. AI is different from that. It's like a good 40-50% of the posts for at least a year or more, and I don't see it going away anytime soon. It's also different from web3/etc. as those were at most 10% of the posts and most of us can see it's just hype. I'm not fighting for a split/fork, just stating the fact that it's noth…

IIRC that was a deliberate campaign to make the site unattractive to a spate of non-technical folks who had apparently all simultaneously discovered it.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by juped »

IanCal wrote: post #183
pxc wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is neat, but with the given filters you autoselected (just the phrases "llm" and "ai"), of the 14 stories I see when I visit the page, 4 of them (more than 25%!) are still stories about AI. (At least one of them can't be identified by this kind of filtering because it doesn't use any AI-related words in its headline, arguably maybe two.)

> of the 14 stories I see when I visit the page, 4 of them (more than 25%!) Llm maths? ;)

25% of 14 is 3.5. 4 is more than 3.5. Ask grock if you still don't get it.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by MarceColl »

201984 wrote: post #207
sshine wrote: post #202

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Lobste.rs provides that distinction.

And it's invite-only, so it's hardly an alternative.

well, it takes around 20 minutes to get an invite, so hardly a problem if you prefer only tech articles

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by johnb231 »

raincole wrote: post #64
fouronnes3 wrote: post #52

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Great example of the power of vibe coding. The first item is literally "Kiro: A new agentic IDE".

There is literally an input box to put terms you want to exclude... The prompt asks for "filters out specific search terms", not "intelligently filter out any AI-related keywords." So yes, a good example of the power of vibe coding: the LLM built a tool according to the prompt.

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by jwillp »

tolerance wrote: post #127
voisin wrote: post #108

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I think there’s another step here: Using AI to build tools that use AI to escape AI. Eventually: using AI to build tools that use AI to escape AI using tools that use AI.

> using AI to build tools that use AI to escape AI using tools that use AI Few illustrations are so absurd yet feasible enough to depict as horrendous a reality as this.

Clearly the US needs a constitutional amendment to preserve the right to keep and bear AI tools. Then we can arm the victims of AI tools with their own AI tools, for self-defense. If we're lucky, AI will send its AI thoughts and AI prayers in carefully calculated quantities.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by bluefirebrand »

ryandrake wrote: post #190
bluefirebrand wrote: post #57

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Not the OP, but I'm sick to death of hearing about AI The hype around it is ridiculous. I don't personally find it nearly as useful as people are saying, so everything feels like people are trying to gaslight me Don't get me wrong, it's cool tech. Amazing stuff. I just personally don't have much interest in it until it's much more reliable for the things I want to use it for And I'm really exhausted, tired of hearing…

> And I'm really exhausted, tired of hearing about how this is going to replace people like me any minute now I'm kind of exhausted in general (year after year) of frankly unimaginative engineers who should know better, latching on to whatever is the latest soup of the month, and touting it here as the greatest human achievement since fire.

I do wish that there was a good place to talk about interesting stuff with people online that was a bit more resistant to both the extreme hype and the extreme pessimism

HN threads very often feel like whichever side posted first winds up dominating the thread, it's bizarre

I see the comments on some articles that are massively pro AI all upvoted to the top, then the comments on another article and it's all the negative AI comments upvoted

It's weirdly echo-chambery on a post by post basis

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by RodgerTheGreat »

CL_ergo wrote: post #49
simonw wrote: post #32

I built you this: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered It shows you the Hacker News page with ai and llm stories filtered out. You can change the exclusion terms and save your changes in localStorage. o3 knocked it out for me in a couple of minutes: https://chatgpt.com/share/68766f42-1ec8-8006-8187-406ef452e0... Initial prompt was: Build a web tool that displays the Hacker News homepage (fetched from…

There's a special kind of irony to use AI to help out the people who hate AI. It's not hypocrisy or anything negative like that, but I do find it amusing for some reason.

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by mdaniel »

Hasnep wrote: post #12
toomuchtodo wrote: post #2

Feature request: HN could support a tag or label for categorizing a post. This would allow for filtering trivially, and creating views based on participant interest.

I don't know if you're allowed to promote alternatives to HN, but Lobste.rs has tags which you can follow or completely block. Plus I've found the quality of the discussion is higher than HN, at the cost of much lower quantity.

> at the cost of much lower quantity.

Which they could solve by having a less dumb invite system. They can very easily confirm I am not a bot nor a spammer based on any number of objective metrics I can provide to them. But instead the answer is "idle in IRC, hope for the best" and thus they end up with the audience who is willing to jump through those hoops

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by iLoveOncall »

johnb231 wrote: post #214
raincole wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is literally an input box to put terms you want to exclude... The prompt asks for "filters out specific search terms", not "intelligently filter out any AI-related keywords." So yes, a good example of the power of vibe coding: the LLM built a tool according to the prompt.

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But there literally is an input box.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by barbazoo »

FroshKiller wrote: post #71
raincole wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is literally an input box to put terms you want to exclude... The prompt asks for "filters out specific search terms", not "intelligently filter out any AI-related keywords." So yes, a good example of the power of vibe coding: the LLM built a tool according to the prompt.

So I have to stay up to date on AI stories just to know what buzzwords I should filter so I don't see AI stories?

How about a version with LLM integration that detects "AI" related stories in a more clever way? /s
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