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Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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Post by mdaniel »

buggy6257 wrote: post #151
bagels wrote: post #95

People are sending us emails that are not just written with chatgpt, but I think they've automated the process as well, as parts of the prompt slip in. You can see things in the emails like: "I provided a concise, polite response from a candidate to a job rejection, expressing gratitude, a desire for feedback, and interest in future opportunities."

Ignoring the hilarity who in their right mind is replying to job denial emails? What the hellll…

I for sure do, because I'm thrilled out of my mind they were polite enough to not just ghost me. I know better than to ask for feedback, or to expect any subsequent exchange, though

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Post by hsuduebc2 »

ryandvm wrote: post #114
mr_00ff00 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So depressing to hear that “because of rampant cheating” As a person looking for a job, I’m really not sure what to do. If people are lying on their resumes and cheating in interviews, it feels like there’s nothing I can do except do the same. Otherwise I’ll remain jobless. But to this day I haven’t done either.

I don't know, I kind of feel like leetcode interviews are a situation where the employer is cheating. I mean, you're admittedly filtering out a great number of acceptable candidates knowing that if you just find 1 in a 1000, that'll be good enough. It is patently unfair to the individuals that are smart enough to do your work, but poor at some farcical representation of the work. That is cheating. In my opinion, if a…

I wouldn't call it cheating but most of the time it's just stupid. For majority of software developer jobs would be more suitable to discuss the solution of the more complex problem tham randomly stress out people just because you think you should.

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Post by mdaniel »

crooked-v wrote: post #119
kittikitti wrote: post #38

I tell everyone to share their entire screen, have their video on, and start coding. It's not that different. Even as an interviewer, I experimented with the usual cheating techniques so I know what to look out for. The best are the AI teleprompters. If you can do the work with your own AI then I see no need to care as the business will not care either. The story is completely different for airgapped dark room jobs,…

> share their entire screen That would be a bit awkward with my 32:9 primary monitor.

I have my dual 4K Dells for day to day work but I unplug one and scale it to something reasonable for interviews because having consideration is part of the signal that I'm sending (and empathy, because I hate trying to read purple text on a black background myself when trying to view other people's setups)

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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Post by no-reply »

Aeolun wrote: post #154
shaneoh wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently interviewed for my team and tried this same approach. I thought it made sense because I want to see how people can actually work and problem solve given all the tools at their disposal, just like on the job. It proved to be awkward and clumsy very quickly. Some candidates resisted it since they clearly thought it would make them judged harsher. Some candidates were on the other extreme and basically tried…

What are you supposed to ask chatGPT if you can’t just ask it the answer? That’d confuse me too.

Some part of the problem statement you want help with (rather than a complete answer)?

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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Post by hsuduebc2 »

BowBun wrote: post #184
sergioisidoro wrote: post #63

I've let people use GPT in coding interviews, provided that they show me how they use it. At the end I'm interested in knowing how a person solves a problem, and thinks about it. Do they just accept whatever crap the gpt gives them, can they take a critical approach to it, etc. So far, everyone that elected to use GPT did much worse. They did not know what to ask, how to ask, and did not "collaborate" with the AI. So…

This has been my experience as well. The ones that have most heavily relied on GPT not only didn't really know what to ask, but couldn't reason about the outputs at all since it was frequently new information to them. Good candidates use it like a search engine - filling known gaps.

I don't really can't imagine being it usefull in the way where it writes logical part of the code for you. If you are not being lousy you still need to think about all the edge cases when it generates the code which seems harder for me.

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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Post by chrisfowles »

themanmaran wrote: post #102

On our side we've transitioned to only in person interviews. The biggest thing I've noticed is take home challenges have lost all value. Since GPT can plausibly solve almost anything you throw at it, and it doesn't give you any indication of how the candidate thinks. And to be fair, I want a candidate that uses GPT / Cursor / whatever tools get the job done. But reading the same AI solution to a coding challenge does…

From my perspective, you might be using take-home challenges incorrectly. The purpose for us is to have something that both sides are now somewhat familiar with, on which to base a technical conversation and ask questions. The actual solution delivered is a small part of the overall value.

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Post by blazing234 »

ryan-duve wrote: post #19

My startup got acquired last year so I haven't interviewed anyone in a while, but my technical interview has always been: - share your screen - download/open the coding challenge - you can use any website, Stack Overflow, whatever, to answer my questions as long as it's on the screenshare My goal is to determine if the candidate can be technically productive, so I allow any programming language, IDE, autocompleter, e…

im not doing any coding challenges that aren't real world

if i see anything remotely challenging i dip out. interviewing is just a numbers game nowadays so i dont waste time on interviews if they seem like they're gonna burn me out for the rest of the day. granted i have 11 years experience

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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Post by blazing234 »

shihab wrote: post #164

To get an idea of just how advanced cheating tools has become, take a look here: https://leetcodewizard.io/ I think every interviewer, hiring manager ought to know or be trained on these tools, your intuition about candidate's behaviour isn't enough. Otherwise, we will soon reach a tipping point where honest candidates will be at a severe disadvantage.

this is a good thing.

anyone I know who actually got a job through leetcode style in the last 2 years cheated. they would get their friends to mirror monitor and then type the answers in from chatgpt LOL

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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Post by blazing234 »

kittikitti wrote: post #38

I tell everyone to share their entire screen, have their video on, and start coding. It's not that different. Even as an interviewer, I experimented with the usual cheating techniques so I know what to look out for. The best are the AI teleprompters. If you can do the work with your own AI then I see no need to care as the business will not care either. The story is completely different for airgapped dark room jobs,…

if your interviews are easily cheatable you should probably fix the interviews. back in the day when i was in university we were allowed to use any resources for exams cause you couldnt cheat easily.
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