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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by Stronico »

jaimie wrote: post #126
robertlagrant wrote: post #115

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This is why Facebook ended up being the tool of choice. Stay in one app instead of logging into 2 and checking your email and a website. I'm only surprised that 1-3 can't all be done via Meetup.

They all can be done through Meetup - I think the point here is that multiple channels avoids vendor lock-in and increases the likelihood that a user will overlap with one of the 4 communication strategies.

All of those can be done on meetup - but then we would lose a lot of people who are not, and will not be on Meetup.

The email list is probably the single most important part of the tech stack actually.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by Stronico »

scarface_74 wrote: post #75
Stronico wrote: post #55

I run a discussion group that meets once a month - our tech stack is 1. A blog running WordPress that I use to announce meetings 2. A meetup.com account (free tier) that has the same information as the blog 3. A MailChimp account (free tier) where I send notices about the meetups 4. A very active Slack group (free tier) where I announce meetups and we have entended discussions. Discord would probably work just as wel…

You don’t see how much more work that is?

I've got it down to 45 minutes a month, including a phone call to the venue.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by scarface_74 »

Stronico wrote: post #212
scarface_74 wrote: post #75

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You don’t see how much more work that is?

I've got it down to 45 minutes a month, including a phone call to the venue.

And what happens when he gets tired of managing all of that? With Facebook he can just give someone else admin access.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by pixl97 »

briandear wrote: post #194
bee_rider wrote: post #73

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We could communicate more effectively 20 or so years ago. Communication technology had already matured, but we didn’t have these engagement-driven social media platforms. The goal of these platforms isn’t to communicate, it is to sell ads and pick engaging posts to re-broadcast. What gets people engaged is stupid anger. Even stuff I agree with on some fundamental political level, the social media version is just stre…

Communication was more effective 20 years ago? I remember using a Skypager when I was a Reuters journalist. I also remember processing film in bathrooms at news events then having to scan negatives using a suitcase-sized scanner and computer and it being 30-60 minutes to get photos onto the wire. Now it’s instant. Saying communications were more effective 20 years ago is highly debatable and certainly an argument tin…

>Saying communications were more effective 20 years ago

Of course it's debatable because reality can be measured in multiple dimensions.

Is it faster, yes. Is filtering out the massive amounts of bullshit communications easier? Not really, especially with content aware spambots than can be ran by the millions. It's easy to get crushed by bullshit asymmetry. For me this makes most communications less effective because I have to spend even more time figuring out the actual poster and their motivations.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by latexr »

scarface_74 wrote: post #207
latexr wrote: post #167

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> isolated The whole thread is about limited and well-defined communities, not the world. What the OP wants is specifically “isolated”. > like planting some seeds Spending thirty years planting a 550 hectare forest and restoring wildlife to it is not “planting some seeds”. Please don’t be reductive. > Real change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman Change is change. You don’t get to define someone’s life w…

50K people is a limited community to move to another platform???

Yes, yes it is. By definition. “Limited” means “restricted in size”, not “an arbitrary number a random person thinks is small”. From the moment OP defined “this is for this specific community of this size”, it is limited. It will be abundantly clear when they have moved no one, or every one, or a critical mass, or not enough. Because it’s limited, bounded, constrained.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by lsllc »

rcpt wrote: post #181
javier123454321 wrote: post #172

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I'm sorry I don't understand the Twitter connection here

The Twitter Files a were releases of some internal memos and files from Twitter's operation prior to Musk's acquisition that document the policy machinations within the company and its interactions with the Biden administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by mplewis »

ecshafer wrote: post #14

> I live in a more rural community (moved from a big city). We have 5-6 small (~50k people) towns, all well connected. Everything happens on Facebook. I would like to move to a different platforms. Plus points for self-hosted, federated. Do YOU want to move off of Facebook for some reason, or do people want to move off of Facebook for some reason. MOST people in the US, especially in a rural are are not going to quit…

Everyone wants to move off Facebook. The platform is shit and its main job is to shovel posts you don't want to read at your face so you scroll past them and view more ads.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by mplewis »

arbor_day wrote: post #42
sebstefan wrote: post #21

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Most people in the US have already quit that app, the battle's not that uphill. You're starting half up

That seems wrong. More than half the US population uses Facebook. https://www.statista.com/statistics/408971/number-of-us-face...

There is absolutely no way that 80% of the US actively uses Facebook.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by orwin »

Sorry I don't have time to look if a good solution exists, but you have to check out framalibre by framasoft. Half the apps they recommend don't really work out of the box, but the rest is pretty good, and everything can be self-hosted.

https://framalibre.org/ (it's french only, sorry)

Good luck!

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