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Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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Post by prmoustache »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #198
prmoustache wrote: post #185

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>I see your point, but from the perspective of the Android phone, this is already a backup. This is because if I lose the phone, I can restore the important parts of its state from the copy on the server - which is the definition of a backup, according to Wikipedia for example. I am not familiar enough with nextcloud but what happens if - excluding your home server setup - you modify a picture on your smartphone and…

Nextcloud has a first-party plugin that keeps a version history, which is very useful to enable to mitigate issues like this. That combined with the default behavior that deletions on devices only go to the trash on the server turns it into a real backup option.

Oh that's great. Thanks.

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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Post by prmoustache »

npteljes wrote: post #197
prmoustache wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I see your point, but from the perspective of the Android phone, this is already a backup. This is because if I lose the phone, I can restore the important parts of its state from the copy on the server - which is the definition of a backup, according to Wikipedia for example. I am not familiar enough with nextcloud but what happens if - excluding your home server setup - you modify a picture on your smartphone and…

Ah, right, then maybe I didn't see the point after all. Nextcloud handles this quite well though, I think, it will say, on the phone, that there is a conflict between the two versions of the file, and in case of images, it ever shows them side by side, and asks you what to do.

OK in that case that makes at least clearer for the user. Thanks.

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

radeeyate wrote: post #174
ur-whale wrote: post #73

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> The only data I care about on the phone already gets backed up by Google and is then exported regularly via Google Takeout. Are you using Google Authenticator? If so, how do you backup your secrets?

Google already automatically backs up secrets to your Google Account

What could possibly go wrong.

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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Post by Wicher »

esperent wrote: post #60
sriacha wrote: post #48

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also use NeoBackup, and it works pretty well for the most part.

Since your phone is rooted, how do you manage banking apps and other things that don't like working on a rooted device? How much work is involved in getting those to work?

I'm running LineageOS, rooted, with MicroG' Safetynet emulation (of sorts?). So a build signed with userdebug keys.

Some banking apps just work - two with warning on first launch, and one just doesn't care at all.

Two refuse to run and I have an old unrooted phone for them. Resulting in me being a good customer of those three banks that are not fussy.

So try and see, perhaps things just work!

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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Post by hulitu »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #214
radeeyate wrote: post #174

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Google already automatically backs up secrets to your Google Account

What could possibly go wrong.

This is industry standard now. "Your security is very important for _us_". (and for the companies they work with, and for the 3 letter agencies they work with)

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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Post by rpdillon »

blactuary wrote: post #196
rossjudson wrote: post #114

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AFAIK Takeout + Photos returns the original image file exactly as it originally existed, EXIF intact. Any additional metadata you have added manually is placed in a JSON file with the same name, adjacent to the image file. It sounds like you want Photos to somehow merge that added metadata back into the image files, altering them. I'm quite confident that there would be an equal number of people complaining about cha…

No, they remove all of it, date/time, camera, location, all of that is in the JSON. There are 3rd party tools to automate adding it back, but direct from Google all of your photos will not have any of the metadata

Based on my November 2020 Google takeout of 30 gigabytes of photos that I just spot sampled from my Synology, I can verify that the EXIF information on my photos from 2012 (jpg format) include the phone that I took the picture with, the aperture and shutter speed, the date and the time. I didn't do anything other than download the zip files and then extract them.

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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Post by kwanbix »

solardev wrote: post #202
kwanbix wrote: post #195

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Whenever I switch android phones, I need to setup each app from scratch, unless is a google app.

What do you mean "set up"? Like when I get a new phone, my previous apps just reinstall themselves. I might have to log back in, but that only takes a sec with a password manager. Does it not work like that for you? I've only gone from Nexus to Pixel to Pixel though (all Google phones) so maybe that's why?

Configure all the apps as they were before.

Is like a new phone besides contacts/mails/photos, the rest (besides the pre-installation) is like I never used the apps on the phone.

From having to login to having to re-configure everything.

Re: Ask HN: How do you backup your Android?

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Post by luqtas »

fulafel wrote: post #116
luqtas wrote: post #33

rsync -a --delete --quiet '/run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp:host=SAMSUNG_SAMSUNG_Android_5210f7e3ea5e5417/Internal shared storage' /home/luqtas/Android; notify-send "android backed!"

How does this work, isn't gvfs a userspace virtual fs? FUSE?

i have no idea... all i did was to click in 'Copy Location' on the 3 dots icon ^-^
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