I’m not sure why, but I think the fact that it’s an appendix meant the author had no motivation to inflate the content unnecessarily. So it’s more like a pamphlet; only about 30 pages IIRC, and it’s really just the bare-bones definitions and facts. The full-on textbooks dedicated to category theory have way too much superfluous content IMO, unless your aim is to be a researcher in that field specifically.
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#212But I'd like to mention two books I read as a child which had a life-altering effect. They probably wouldn't do any good for an adult, but might really help your kids... Unfortunately, I don't remember the specific titles or authors (I was probably around 10 yrs old). The first was similar to this book:
"Speed Math for Kids: The Fast, Fun Way To Do Basic Calculations." This gave all sorts of advice and tips to quickly do math in your head... simple things, mostly. For example, to multiply by 18 just double, multiply by 10, and subtract 10%; or how it's frequently faster to multiply numbers by moving from most significant digits to least, which is opposite of how we're taught; or how to quickly estimate square roots. This really didn't teach new concepts, but by making routine and tiresome math operations faster and easier, it made the entire field more enjoyable to engage with.
The second book was a guide to slide rulers, and I couldn't even find a similar book on Amazon. But learning advanced slide ruler techniques can trigger an epiphany; you learn mathematical relationships, how you can transform how numbers are represented. It was the first time I really saw an elegant structure behind the math.
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#213> Discrete Mathematics with Applications by Susanna S. Epp Fantastic book for Discrete Mathematics with lucid explanation and good exercises. The other one would be concrete mathematics.
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're trying to understand a domain work (such as Euler's) you could probably get a working knowledge in a month of strong study, a year of off-and-on. I bet you could start this week if you used machine translations as a crutch. I'd start working with a publication that exists in Latin and a good translation, so you can compare your work.
Thank you! Sounds much less intimidating. My fear with machine translations is that subtle errors here and there might throw me off in something like math where things are precisely stated. A year of part time study sounds doable though
In fact, you'll find that many philosophers will just use the Latin words directly, and not bother translating them - Latin qua jargon if you will.
Once you've learned the various forms of "is" (sum, very irregular) you can kinda survive reading without conjugations, just like this sentence can be worked out:
he to go to store and to buy cheese yesterday
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#215Honestly, unless you're very gifted, a book on its own is not going to be enough to really develop your skills. You need to work interactively with a teacher. Getting a degree in math is a good start, but even then it will be limited if you don't work with other people, go to office hours, form relationships with professors---embed yourself in the culture, so to speak. I think getting engaged with an online community…
Your point (2) about compiler/interpreter in programming giving you rapid objective feedback is spot on and a vital component for deliberate practice that most people don't think on. You can kind of get this in math, in particular when you have some familiarity with the subject matter so the machinery isn't "too abstract" for you to sort through. (I.e. you should be able to confirm whether your proof/answer is accurate the vast majority of the time.) This is much trickier for first exposure to a subject though and the checking effort is on you, not the compiler.
The biggest issue I've seen with people self studying or in small math groups is your final (non-aside) paragraph which is perhaps more a psychological problem than and aptitude problem. When things get tough there's an enormous temptation to delude yourself to think you understand something that you are clueless about. The typical, schoolroom, way of mitigating this is via a final exam and you can check your grade at the end of the class; this gets typically gets short circuited in self guided study. Exams, btw, are essentially validation data sets you compare your math knowledge/model against. (We can call them 'test' sets if you prefer). The most important step really is repeatedly seeing how your knowledge works out of sample i.e. on 'new' stuff that comes out of the wood works and math.stackexchange is a perfect place for this when dealing with undergrad to mid-grad level problems. I do this all the time to get a sense of my understanding of a new subject I've recently acquired. But most people refuse this final step. People will tell me its 'too hard' and 'takes too much time' (meanwhile they start a new math book) but I strongly suspect it's in large part due to cognitive dissonance. (Another kind of out of sample test comes up when working on a subject matter that uses something you just "learned" as a pre-req, though there's a recursive element here and at some point they basically need to interact with 3rd parties.)
I suppose my relatively minor quibble is how much effectiveness depends on being "very gifted" [in some sort of math specific sense] vs understanding the basics of self-learning and being psychologically aware (astute?) enough to not go into denial. Insert quote from Feynman or whomever about how easy it is to fool yourself.
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#216> Discrete Mathematics with Applications by Susanna S. Epp Fantastic book for Discrete Mathematics with lucid explanation and good exercises. The other one would be concrete mathematics.
I'm working through this right now and really enjoying it.
Though I realise I've spent over a week on section 2.2 so "working through it" may be a bit of a generous term.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
While it's laudable that you sought those texts and profited from them, I worry about what others might take away from this. When I was young I knew some geniuses who highly spoke of Principia and how it gave them great insights. And the teenager me said, okay cool, I'll have a go! The problem is that it's in Latin and quite impenetrable. We have some geniuses here and they would no doubt be able to take away a lot f…
It might make sense to read a translation in a language you understand. Many of the books that are considered classics are specifically because they ARE accessible. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are easy, but there is a big difference between reading Euclid and learning how to create mathematical proofs, and taking a class focused on calculating the area of various shapes or determine angles. I haven't read…
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#220This is a bit of an odd suggestion, but I learned the basics of category theory from the appendix to Weibel’s “An Introduction to Homological Algebra”. I’m not sure why, but I think the fact that it’s an appendix meant the author had no motivation to inflate the content unnecessarily. So it’s more like a pamphlet; only about 30 pages IIRC, and it’s really just the bare-bones definitions and facts. The full-on textboo…