Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

news.ycombinator.com

211–220 of 419 posts

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't feel better. What hope is there for me then!? Fuck-em and their stupid snobby jobs anyway.

I'm sorry. There's no hope for me either; I'm not a "good cultural fit" most of the time. I agree with your last sentence, although I would word it a little differently. :)

From your blog I expect that you'd be a cultural fit for the kind of place I'd like to work in. Unfortunately those places are not the that common.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#212
post #128

Earlier this year, I interviewed this guy who gave me really strange vibes. He would stall for a good 15-20 seconds after each question I asked... and then spit out a perfectly worded answer. I google'd some specific, peculiar phrases I remembered him saying after the interview and found that the phrases came straight out of places like the Kubernetes documentation, word for word. He was googling my questions and the…

I don't know how much I judge this candidate you're talking about. Somebody who can give you the right answer after 20 seconds despite apparently not knowing what he was talking about before seems like a pretty useful employee to me.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#213
post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you work for a company there is some expectation of being able to work while people watch you. I don't know what kind of company you work for, but, in spite of the fact that every single technical interview I've ever had involved live coding, I've literally never had to write code in front of anyone at work. By "write code" I mean "write code that's expected to compile and run." I've done plenty of whiteboarding…

you never had to work through some piece of code together with a team mate? to get help or to explain to them how something works?

That's not in any way comparable to live coding in an interview, for multiple reasons.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#214
post #69
post #30

It's a problem here too. Even if they use their camera, it doesn't mean they don't have someone feeding them answers to questions. Phone interviews are even more sketchy since the person who may be answering the questions is a completely different person who shows up on day 1. We had one person we hired as a contractor, but then her voice changed on the phone, and started calling people by their last names in chat. I…

> A third contractor I knew was trying to do two jobs at the same time. I mean this literally how contractors work. Unless they were taking your IP and using it for another company I don’t see the issue.

By working two jobs at the same time, they mean working one hour and then billing two companies for that same hour of work.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#215
post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it strange that there appears to be international networks within American universities. I have noticed a large number of people from the same countries, attending similar vague programs (like you mentioned), writing theses with advisors from their home country. It makes me wonder if they are just getting into a completely different program with the "American university" name. Do you have any insight into this…

> It makes me wonder if they are just getting into a completely different program with the "American university" name. Not op, but I can answer this. Short answer: Yes. Longer answer: Most non-terminal Masters degree programs are degree mills, even at well known universities. These are almost always pay-to-play with few opportunities for scholarships, TAships, or whatever. Most “real” students will enter a doctoral p…

I should also add that undergrads who do a 5-year dual degree (BA/MA or BS/MS) don’t fall into the “buying a degree” category. Often times the upper level undergrad courses are the exact same courses as the lower level masters courses, so this is just prudent in some fields and or student situations (e.g., wanting to extend time at school in order to improve professional opportunities after graduation ).

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#217
post #170
post #128

Earlier this year, I interviewed this guy who gave me really strange vibes. He would stall for a good 15-20 seconds after each question I asked... and then spit out a perfectly worded answer. I google'd some specific, peculiar phrases I remembered him saying after the interview and found that the phrases came straight out of places like the Kubernetes documentation, word for word. He was googling my questions and the…

My favorite bit is this: "4k+ ACTIVE CLIENTS, 35+ PROJECTS DONE...10 GLORIOUS YEARS" I imagine then, there's at least 3965 clients that aren't super happy. At 3.5 projects completed per year, it's going to be a long road.

Not at all, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation if you fit an exponential growth model to the numbers given.

You see, they must have started with one client, in year one, and thereafter achieved an average growth rate of 151.33% per annum.

My Excel model:

  Year Clients
  1 1
  2 3
  3 6
  4 16
  5 40
  6 100
  7 252
  8 633
  9 1592
  10 4001
In the tenth year, they would have 4001 clients. However, they would have passed 35 clients about five years prior, and therefore the implication is simply that that is the cohort that is completing now and projects last on the order of five years.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#218
post #128

Earlier this year, I interviewed this guy who gave me really strange vibes. He would stall for a good 15-20 seconds after each question I asked... and then spit out a perfectly worded answer. I google'd some specific, peculiar phrases I remembered him saying after the interview and found that the phrases came straight out of places like the Kubernetes documentation, word for word. He was googling my questions and the…

I do feel that if its possible to google interview questions in 20 seconds they are bad interview questions.

Or the candidate clearly showed an aptitude for the job!

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#219

The FBI and other US federal agencies have attributed similar tactics to North Koreans looking to infiltrate particular industries [1-3]. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/north-korean-crypto-job-cand... [2] https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/17/fbi_korea_freelancers... [3] https://www.wired.com/story/north-korean-it-scammer-alert/

The FBI seem to be able to infiltrate any group they like, so I'm sure they know the tricks.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#220
post #206
post #62

Some time ago (~6 months) my company was looking to hire a programmer. We don't have a established process for this as it was some years since we hired a coder, but then we are in the industry (hiring) so published a couple of adverts here and there and we got the thing rolling. Most of the applicants were seriously under qualified, and my colleagues had to go through a lot of rubbish in the form of CVs in order to f…

Just want to say that I work with and have worked with many stellar coders from India. I'd suggest not writing off over a billion people.

You’ve missed the point entirely
Post reply on HN