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Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by akhmatova »

winterplace wrote: post #209
akhmatova wrote: post #21

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Of course a lot of people do -- but at a cost to productivity (per hour) and as said, their health and and relationships. There's lots and lots and lots of research about this, actually.

Having a kid is a 2nd job. There is a cost to productivity per hour too and affects their health. Would you fire them?

No. Because they're infinitely more important and valuable and interesting than any day job you can possibly think of.

All of this industry's propaganda to the contrary notwithstanding.

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Post by stuntkite »

winterplace wrote: post #204
stuntkite wrote: post #160

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I have a friend who took two in office sysadmin jobs and automated them enough that he never had to come in and was able to basically do nothing except work on cars and play video games and hang out for like 5 years. I'm still proud of him to this day.

IT department or just a one person sysadmin role.

They were both online companies with fairly small teams. He was the sole IT administrator managing the networking on bare metal infra. He did a good job and would respond to emails, calls, or texts, but essentially when he was let go from both organizations (nearly at the same time) it was because they realized they had long ago outgrown the need for a classic sysadmin and mostly their services were starting to migrate to AWS as that was kind of the new thing happening.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by motohagiography »

winterplace wrote: post #201
motohagiography wrote: post #43

Did it legitimately over the pandemic because I'm a solo consultant/contractor and don't have exclusivity clauses so I manage multiple clients, however, it has come up in interviews when they look at dates because I put them all on my CV. Key observations to share are: - the more different the jobs are, the more managable they are, as the complete context switch is as good as a break. It's not task context switching…

Agree with telling the truth. How did you tell full-time employers who interview you that you have clients on the side? Do you just tell them the truth that it is none of their business?

In interviews I just tell the truth, which is that I'm a consultant, I usually have more than a single client, as otherwise it puts them at risk of me being classed as an employee.

My observations were from how to manage multiple clients together using the extra time from remote work, as the experience is close. The actual mechanics of the moonlighting employee part sounds like a lot of grey to me, but it was common even before covid and I saw it a lot in unionized environments. Typical calls I'd overhear would be people running charities, managing other consultants on other gigs, doing side of the desk startups, etc. It seems pretty normal.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by akhmatova »

winterplace wrote: post #205
akhmatova wrote: post #152

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Are you required to tell your employer if you're moonlighting or doing other paid work? I'm not. Actually it's quite common for employment (and even consulting) agreements to have language specifying that you do exactly that -- "devote your full working hours and attention" to their duties for the Company. As well as clauses specifically prohibiting moonlighting (or at least requiring you to declare any such outside…

Then do they fire people who only have 1 job but are coasting?

That's a different topic, of course.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by panda88888 »

rsanek wrote: post #153
MilStdJunkie wrote: post #15

If you do this with direct charge government work, you're within hailing range of felony territory. Granted, you probably won't get caught, but if you do, it's going to be a bridge burner for you in this industry basically forever. Is that entirely a bad thing, though, considering this industry? Discussion ongoing.

Do you have a source for this being considered a felony?

https://news.clearancejobs.com/2021/09/08/does-your-client-w...

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Post by im_busy »

swah wrote: post #187
im_busy wrote: post #26

I currently have 1 full time job, 1 full time contracting, and 4 clients that pay me a retainer for a set amount of hours they can use week to week. It's going fine; I measure that based on my performance reviews all being excellent, my clients all paying the bills on time, and all work is done in a timely fashion. I do individual contributor infrastructure engineering at the senior+ level. Managing the calendar is t…

Do you use any drugs other than caffeine ?

Nah, though I should exercise more, but that's mostly just me being lazy.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by im_busy »

winterplace wrote: post #192
im_busy wrote: post #26

I currently have 1 full time job, 1 full time contracting, and 4 clients that pay me a retainer for a set amount of hours they can use week to week. It's going fine; I measure that based on my performance reviews all being excellent, my clients all paying the bills on time, and all work is done in a timely fashion. I do individual contributor infrastructure engineering at the senior+ level. Managing the calendar is t…

That is impressive. Do you have an email address or a contact method?

I made a new email if you're interested in chatting imbusyonhackernews at gmail

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Post by froaway4job »

winterplace wrote: post #194
froaway4job wrote: post #88

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Senior to Staff positions at medium to large private or mid cap public companies expect little from their engineers :). Definitely not 10x and I suck at leetcode style problems. I'm probably a 2xer who acts like a 1xer. That's the real secret. Don't overachieve.

Series D companies above 1B valuation? How did you make it to senior staff without leetcode? How many years YOE to get there?

I did a lot of leetcode when I first started. Nowadays, and especially in this market, it's not hard to find companies not doing any leetcode style interviews. If you have a decent GitHub profile and years of experience you can outright say in interviews that you won't be doing any leetcode style problems. It's an engineers market, take advantage of it!

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Post by Apocryphon »

jdlshore wrote: post #191
giraffe_lady wrote: post #189

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They're going to do that anyway whether we preemptively placate them or not. The solution is solidarity and organizing, not trying to infer their invisible demands on how we allocate our time around the workload. And why would my employer ever have full knowledge of my actions during the workday? Even in the hypothetical it's extremely invasive. If I need to pray five times a day several of those are landing during t…

It sounds like you haven't been part of a healthy workplace environment, and have so much anger about employer/employee relationships that you're straw-manning my hypothetical. That's too bad. But healthy workplaces do exist, and they involve mutual trust. (Up to a point. I'm not advocating blind trust and obedience.) Workplaces where everyone thinks everyone else is out to get them are hell. Don't contribute to it..…

This entire industry is in a hiring frenzy, and even before it, job-hopping for wealth and experience was very common in places like Silicon Valley. In such an environment where employees and employers both treat each other as fungible, it's easy for everything to be highly transactional, low-trust.

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Post by winterplace »

froaway4job wrote: post #218
winterplace wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Series D companies above 1B valuation? How did you make it to senior staff without leetcode? How many years YOE to get there?

I did a lot of leetcode when I first started. Nowadays, and especially in this market, it's not hard to find companies not doing any leetcode style interviews. If you have a decent GitHub profile and years of experience you can outright say in interviews that you won't be doing any leetcode style problems. It's an engineers market, take advantage of it!

How many years in a number?

Which kind of companies are you talking about? Lifestyle business or seed stage or Series A / B / C / D / E?

Nobody really looks at GitHub though. A/b tested it and only very few looked.

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