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Joplin is a solid alternative for me. You can also spin your own cloud or just buy a bit of space.
For mobile users, Joplin does not support widgets and never will. Its written in react-native and that does not support widgets. They have an open issue and basically responded with will not implement or support. I'm someone who needs widgets for my notes...
Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
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Another vote for Obsidian here. Its the first 'note taking' system I actually _use_ (even evernote wasn't as frictionless for me). Not an issue for me, but others might be concerned about its (lack of??) mobile support. I do all my work on desktops and sync thru git, so its not been a problem for me.
What do you mean by lack of mobile support? Mobile app had been working fine for me since its been released, at least for me. I only use it to access previously written stuff or quickly capture something to be properly edited later on my laptop though. So I’m not exactly power mobile user.
I just remember seeing comments about it being a bit behind some of the mobile support offered by other systems. I do everything on desktop, so I ignored it. This was a while ago though, sounds like they have a (new?) mobile app?
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#214I'm going to reproduce a comment verbatim that appeared on HackerNews from quite a while ago. I remembered and kept it for reference because Evernote was supposed to be a 100-year company (Phil Libin's words) and the decline of Evernote was that one reason why I decided to own my content even if I have to use various tooling on top of it. I moved to a text-based lifestyle spiced with some formatting with Markdown eve…
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How about their export file? What happens if/when this software disappears?
Markdown format in a SQLite database, and there’s a command line client to script it if you like. Joplin is excellent.
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What bugs me more than Notion not being open source is that the notes are nowhere on my device apparently but on their servers. I don’t have anything locally. If something happens to Notion or I don’t have access to the web, I’m done?
Notion has export function that allows exporting your entire workspace to Markdown, HTML, or PDF. I do it once a month so that. (It'd be really nice though if Notion had an automated solution to back up to Google Drive, etc.)
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean by lack of mobile support? Mobile app had been working fine for me since its been released, at least for me. I only use it to access previously written stuff or quickly capture something to be properly edited later on my laptop though. So I’m not exactly power mobile user.
I couldn't tell you...which is why I put question marks in :-) I just remember seeing comments about it being a bit behind some of the mobile support offered by other systems. I do everything on desktop, so I ignored it. This was a while ago though, sounds like they have a (new?) mobile app?
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#218While I cannot comment on what changed in Evernote, eventually someone unhelpfully will ask you "WHAT? You didn't have backup?!", which is kind of a legit question. Until then, on Evernote's Tos [1] scroll down to "What Else Do I Need to Know?" and read point f) of section "YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE That". In summary, it says they are not in any way reaponsible for your data loss. Reading in-between the line…
Ok, but to be realistic, this comes from legal. Of course they will try to minimise the responsibility, regardless of technical possibilities. Even rsync.net which basically does data storage says the same under "LIMITATION OF LIABILITY" in their ToS. Unless you're ready to pay for an SLA on your enterprise contact with a company - who would ever say "we're financially / legally responsible for your lost data"? I cha…
On the proactively constructive side (and although my system is not bulletproof either), everything I _create_ first is stored locally and then a copy is stored server side (note, sent email, photo etc). First safety measure is Syncthing (to replicate to other devices), second safety measure is backup (locally and remotely)
Complicated? Yes. Necessary? After reading ToS's, yes.
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I’ve stopped using it because I can’t figure out how to make a nice home page with links to various notes and important links, it just dumps me in the latest random note. Is there a way to organize that, like in notion?
If you use any of the daily notes plugin, you can tell it to always open with the note for today, which is based on a template and can contain anything you want. iIRC by default it just opens the last note you were in.
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#220To be honest, I cannot say anything about e-note client quality, I have not used it at all (I try to use opensource self-hosting alternatives), but such solutions on backend side, look very odd for me, and not look trustworthy.
Returning to your case, at adequate services, should be possibility to backup your documents yourself, or service should have incremental backups.
So, in such circumstances I will first figure out, if it is possible to make backup myself (and will do backup; and will plan backup frequency based on value of day work for me - for most valued - daily or even few times per day; for less valued - weekly). If self backup impossible, I will ask tech support to return to previous state on server side.
For alternatives, as I know, e-note is best for its cost per client, I think anything else will be more expensive (unfortunately, self hosted FOSS solutions are more expensive, even considering, I trust them much more).