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Here's my story. I earned a BS in Physics and Mathematics in 2012. My grades were good and my academic advisers suggested I apply to PhD programs, however I knew that a PhD wasn't for me. Instead I went into an MS in applied physics and got an internship at a laser and semicon equipment company that paid me more than the cost of my MS. The company was going through a cycle of poor business results while I was an intern there, so after graduation in 2013 things didn't work out and I left to find other work. I ended up as an applications engineer at a synthetic diamond company. When I started at the synthetic diamond company I had some really interesting projects to work on. In the 5 years since, the dynamics of the business have ended up with me in a product management / business development role, which is OK but I'm not especially passionate about it. Also, the compensation, skill development, and future prospects of my role leave a lot to be desired. Because of this I'm looking to make my next career move soon.

I've spent a lot of time over the past year thinking about what my next move should be. In this time I've also become hooked on coding, mostly python. My current plan is to pivot into (you guessed it) data science. I expect that this will lead to better pay, vastly more potential employers, and allow me to get back to working on interesting projects.

In hindsight, if I could do everything over I'm not sure I would go into physics. What I've seen is that physics is mostly a field of niches that are filled by specialists. To go far in physics you need to become a specialist, however this can really limit your options later. I think this is why many physicists eventually find themselves going into other fields like data-science.

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#212
BS in physics 2014 (minor in CS)

my research in undergrad and applications for grad school were for computational neuroscience (sort of the whole what would Feynman do if he was still alive route)

1. Didn't get into as many programs as I wanted.

2. East Coast schools even explicitly told me that wetlabs were more important (I semi-agree).

3. West Coast schools were all being gutted for ML/Data science work.

4. all the post docs and grad students I had worked with had switched to doing ML

I deferred for a year and worked at a biotech startup doing neural network simulations to prove the product worked and scrappy hardware startup things.

I've since been at a startup doing NLP for the last two years.

Don't regret the degree which to me is like a STEM liberal arts degree.

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Me[1]: Ph.D. Theoretical/Computational Physics in mid 90s[2], working on simulation of semiconductor defect states, formation and migration energies.

Went commercial rather than academic, as the job market was insanely crowded, and I didn't have "enough" differentiation in my opinion, to land a tenure track, at a lower tier school given the huge influx of high quality talent from the former soviet union (FSU). I was around during the whole Young Scientists Network days (early 90s) where we collectively did deep soul searching on whether or not Physics as an academic career actually made sense.

I joined a supercomputer maker in 1995 ABD, and finished writing up (my third rewrite, first was in 1994, final accepted one was in 1997) and defending . I stayed with them for 6 years, until I saw that they had no real hope of long term survival.

During my time in school, I'd been a consumer of Supercomputing systems across the US, and in my department. I decided that was the career direction I'd go, with the idea that I'd become an entrepreneur after watching successful companies develop and grow. Learn from them, not just their successes, but their failures.

Needless to say, my first job I learned a great deal. My thesis advisor was still trying to push me to postdocs with her former classmates, and I was tempted, but my wife and I decided to start a family, and that kind of nuked that direction.

I left the first place, and was recruited to help another company bootstrap an HPC division. That was fun, I got experience in all the non-technical side of businesses as well as the tech.

They had a financial crisis, and I took a small package and started my own HPC company. I ran that for 14.5 years. It was a wild ride, and I learned a tremendous amount (e.g. I failed in many non-fatal ways). Unfortunately, the last learning experience was in fact, fatal. I joined a cloud company and have been helping to build a "next generation" cloud.

My thesis advisor just retired, and she's been sending me things about Astronomy and Physics openings. They are mostly adjunct teaching things. I love teaching, I get a real blast out of it. But the adjunct life is a massive pay cut, at a time I cannot afford one. I don't have enough spare time to do a good job either.

Recently, my alma mater has an opening in the CS department for HPC-like people, which is definitely up my ally. I've got a real interest in ML and its connections to statistical mechanics, quantum computing, numerical simulations, etc. But I am undecided as to whether or not I should look into this more.

[1] https://scalability.org/about-me/

[2] https://academictree.org/physics/tree.php?pid=743767

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post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d imagine there could be some really interestingly massive simulation possibilities integrating nbody with unity’s new ECS system

Mind reader! Yeah, I'm keen to give that a go. Interestingly it is not a problem that is very easy to parallelize, since every mass will affect every other mass. There may still be some cool ways to use ECS though.

Yeah I can see that... at least all the other non-rigidbody stuff is (theoretically) much more efficient.

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Deep learning consulting ("I teach people to teach machines"). Finished my PhD in quantum optics in 2014, but immediately moved to data science. Why not physics? Full version: http://p.migdal.pl/2015/12/14/sci-to-data-sci.html tl:dr: I wanted a fast-pasted field with more freedom. Physics is now stale (no fundamental changes in the last decades, compared to each year in deep learning; cf. physics in 1900-1920), and a…

Hey, thanks for the link. I've had a vaguely similar path (quantum info PhD -> short software stint -> lectureship -> software/data job). Your list of benefits really resonated with me.

For myself at least I would add job security as another benefit. I struggled in vain for 6-7 months during my lectureship applying to any and all postdocs I could find, so the prospect of cycling through 2-3 year postdocs in various locations eventually overwhelmed me. I loved the research but realised I didn't love it enough to potentially live apart from my partner and regularly go through months-long application processes.

On the flip side, for me freedom is actually something I miss from academia. Admittedly that's partly because I'm a regular employee rather than a freelancer. Outside of teaching, my time was basically my own and I was free to work from home or anywhere else. I'm somewhat resentful of having to justify what I'm spending my time on day by day. Not that my manager would particularly mind if I spent a day researching something slightly blue-sky, but the fact that I might have to respond to questions about it creates this background tinge of anxiety that I find prevents deep creative thought.

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#216
I graduated from Physics at Manchester Uni, UK, in 2001. Damn good few years. I never did anything that would qualify as a physics career and went straight into coding, working at Sonicwall most of my career. I still keep on top of the bleeding edge in physics, physics is still close to my heart :D

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#217
I have a bachelors in physics, which I finished without doing any real research or programming (not recommended). After a brief attempt to find work related to politics/science in DC, I ended up working full time as a tutor (mostly math and physics). I ended up learning front end engineering, which was an uphill battle without programming experience, and after a few jobs, I now work as a software engineer at one of the large tech companies.

My background in physics and math really helped in CS classes I've taken since graduating, and the general technical background and comfort with math has been very helpful in general. I do wish I had done more research and programming in college, as I ignored them in favor of experience that would line up better with work in DC.

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#218
I got my PhD in mid-to-late 2014 in Heavy Ion Physics (colliders with gold/lead/copper/uranium in addition to protons). We wrote a lot of code in c++ for on-detector selection, data-harvesting, and ultimate analysis and graphics rendering. Due to the dearth of jobs in the area and my spouse having a great, well-paying job locally, I decided to join the startup world. I found a little company that wanted a generalist (i.e. data, software, ui, wrench turning) and became employee #10. Three weeks later we begin the acquisition process with one of the FAANGs. Fast forward a month and a half and I'm now a SWE there with no formal CS training. Additionally, I'm automatically a L4 due to my PhD. This leads to pain. I'm doing the best I can to get work done, but I have a physics mindset where right is 100x more important than fast. That's the exact opposite of working at one of these companies. First half: meets expectations with an informal note that I was on the edge but they understood my position. Second half: meets most. One of the biggest punches to the gut in my life. I start fearing being fired every day (I work in an at-will state but I had yet to understand the costs associated with hiring and firing an employee). I overwork myself to get to two halves in a row of meets all with ALMOST exceeds (with a note of, "if only it weren't for that one week in the half where you shut down due to stress"). I go through a couple of reshuffles until I somehow end up on top of the stack due to some combination of attrition and management issues and get that L5 promotion. I've been riding that for a bit now and I'm coming out on the other side of this journey with a much better understanding of the software development cycle, modern technologies and frameworks, MVPs, product-focused thinking, rapid iteration, the value of good tooling and IDEs, how fast can sometimes be more valuable than perfect (with the right caveats), and a strong level of ML experience on both the product and training sides.

Re: Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these days?

#219
PhD in Applied Physics, 2018

Working on data science/ML now.

Started undergrad in 2008 and had to decide between CS and engineering physics. Went with the latter because the school had a particularly strong program.

Applied for PhD programs and national lab positions in 2012. The PhD route seemed more interesting, so I went with that. Ended up spending 6 years on materials simulation.

My peer group ended up going to academia, software engineering, and data science. Technology companies seemed exciting so I interviewed for software engineering and data science roles. Ended up with a company that predicts accident risk from driving data.

I think that physicists are particularly well suited to the machine learning space. I was trained to work systematically work through problems with no analytic solution through clever approximations. This tenacity can help with tackling problems in the machine learning space.

Re: Ask HN: Physicists of HN, what are you working on these days?

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post #41

Physicist, working as a physicist (PhD 2015). Precision tests of gravity, primarily. We test the equivalence principle, Newton's inverse square law, hunt for exotic forms of dark matter, and build/invent cutting-edge sensors for LIGO. I have begun looking about at jobs outside of academia in order to decide whether to stay or go. Data science is one of the easiest transitions a physicist with data-analysis can make,…

> We test [...] Newton's inverse square law Imagine taking Newton down in the Replication Crisis Wars!

Well, I think that's a problem with calling this situation "The Replication Crisis". The basic laws of physics have been verified to an extraordinary degree of accuracy on the that people deal with them daily and even at the ordinary atomic level - if anything, physics has the opposite crisis where it's theories are not fully self-consistent on every hypothetical condition but where in every condition we can produce, one or another theories works with apparently perfect precision.

"The Replication Crisis" has basically involved rather different fields - psychology and human biology/medicine most often. The crisis could be called "human and animal testing crisis" imo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

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