Put most of it in the stock market. Set aside some cash and use it to improve your everyday life whenever you feel like it. For example, don't fly Economy class if it's crowded and uncomfortable. Spend your holidays in a nice place, better hotel. Eat at better restaurants. But a safer (larger?) car. Do NOT hire a wealth manager or go to some private banking advisors.
this is probably some sort of contra-indicator when average joe off the internet recommends Putting most of your money in the stock market. We must be near the Top of this bull run. This bull market is almost 10 years old. We are overdue for a "breather".
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#212Amazing how many people think $8M is enough to retire, or even that you'd want to. Go travel the world with the family for a while. Clear your head and have a good think about the future.
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
this is probably some sort of contra-indicator when average joe off the internet recommends Putting most of your money in the stock market. We must be near the Top of this bull run. This bull market is almost 10 years old. We are overdue for a "breather".
Haven’t you been paying attention? We’ve been breathing for the past two months. My tech stocks have lost over $120k of value since September highs, in just two months.
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Start a business." Um, he has no need to work. Why would starting a business be the most important thing to do? Basically, he can find out what sensible or quirky thing he likes and do that - just as long as it does not cost more than a middle class income can support. If he's entrepreneurial then sure, business. But I see nothing wrong in spending ones life painting, sculpting, doing maths or science or volunteerin…
Idle hands are the devil's workshop. Having no passion and nothing to do is a sure way to lose everything and ruin your otherwise established life. So better to get to work on your own project now without the fear of going broke. Painting and sculpting, science or volunteering are fine if the person loves it. Otherwise he'll be happy doing what he's been doing all his life before this moment — programming, creating h…
Which I must admit I enjoy in a weird way.
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#216Lots of advice to put your money in the stock market. Have you seen the stock market this year? Don't get me wrong, the stock market is a perfectly great place to park your money, and it's basically back stopped by the US government. My suggestion is look to invest elsewhere. Invest in real estate, invest in businesses. The latter, as you now know, can create much more wealth than the stock market. The end goal of th…
> Lots of advice to put your money in the stock market. Have you seen the stock market this year?
Investing a large sum in the stock market like this is not meant to make quick money, it's for the long term. If you invest in funds that follow the S&P500 it's statistically going to bring solid returns over the long term. This will allow you draw a salary from the returns keeping the principle intact.
> Invest in real estate, invest in businesses.
Investing in real estate and businesses should be a small piece or even hobby until you really get a grasp on it. It's an easy way to lose a lot of money.
> The latter, as you now know, can create much more wealth than the stock market.
It can but again great reward = great risk. Angel investing is a full time job in itself and unless you have the right connections with the best companies it's very difficult to do the right deals where the 10x returns happen.
> Hiring an advisor could be a good idea - but make sure you know their fees.
Not just know their fees but make sure it's a fiduciary and not just a broker. A fiduciary advisor is legally obligated to put your best interest first.
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#217The thing that concerns me is that "I do not think I have any real hobbies." I suggest continuing to work, but perhaps being pickier about where you work. Perhaps there's a dream job you've always wanted to do that up until now wasn't feasible because it doesn't pay enough, like fireman, park ranger, teacher, musician, etc? The key here is to have an obligation (people depend on you) and social interaction. Also, see…
"Also, see if maybe you can develop some hobbies. It can be as simple as hiking or collecting stamps. Preferably one that has a social aspect so you have human interaction." I would avoid material intensive Hobbies where you can buy accomplishment. Unfortunately I am not in a similar situation but if I was I would try to maybe put some effort in to being healthy and not just focusing on beeing stimulated constantly.…
Money can't buy happiness. Money can free up your time to explore enriching endeavours. A windfall should be a gateway to really explore what the world has to offer without limitations.
My top things that I would do in this situation:
- Make sure my debts are paid, and ensure long term stable income
- 1 hour minimum workout every day
- Be outside as much as possible
- Learn new applicable skills (home or auto repair, woodworking, music, etc...)
- Possibly go back to school
- Play video games
- Read more
These are all things that I try to do now, but don't have the time because of work or debt.
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#218The boggleheads advice is sound.
You need a CPA for taxes.
Get an estate attorney for a proper will and trust (especially if you live in CA).
Consider better liability insurance. I went for $10M.
You could put your assets into low risk cash management accounts for a while to give yourself some time to think. Think money market or similar.
I ultimately did hire an investment manager but only because I needed the psychological grounding to ensure I didn’t do anything stupid out of the gate. Check references. It doesn’t have to be a lifelong relationship but it helped me.
That said, you can manage your own investments if you have the right temperament.
Don’t tell anyone unless you absolutely have to. It was obvious for me and it does make things weird with some people.
The 4% rule is probably too aggressive for you at 43.
You’ll find that having money makes work optional. I find that helps me enjoy working more than I ever did before now that it’s fully my choice what I do everyday.
Just keep calm and don’t rush into anything.
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#219Seriously, AVOID PRIVATE INVESTMENTS.
Kobe Bryant on taking care of family after a windfall: "You will come to understand that you were taking care of them because it made YOU feel good, it made YOU happy to see them smiling and without a care in the world — and that was extremely selfish of you. While you were feeling satisfied with yourself, you were slowly eating away at their own dreams and ambitions. You were adding material things to their lives, but subtracting the most precious gifts of all: independence and growth."
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/kobe-bryant...
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#220The 1st comes not only for lifestyle changes but also the fact that your spouse may realize she can easily just live by her/himself in case a severe disagreement occurs and hence there are less chances of negotiations and moving on.
The 2nd happens because money managers, wealth advisors are going to swarm you. All your friends and their uncles are suddenly going to have once in life time gold plated locked in deals.
So my advice would be to keep life simple, don’t advertise your wealth and don’t rely on managing your wealth anyone but yourself. Remember Warren Buffet stayed in same house and didn’t even told his family even when he became one of the richest person. Study all your investment options intimately, think of it as your new job. Avoid investing more than 5% of your wealth in any single option that is not backed by government guarantees directly. Make friends with other people with similar networth and learn from them.