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Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by eagsalazar2 »

kristopolous wrote: post #168

Vanilla php + html5up + sqlite3. Everyone else here is trying to be stylish and fancy. Your customers don't care what language it's in or whether the code is beautiful. No cutting edge incomplete frameworks, convoluted tooling, piles of inaccurate documentation to read, inexplicable cryptic error messages with a bunch of incorrect solutions on stack overflow, or other incompetently over engineered bullshit. Just go a…

In many areas of the US (the entire west coast for example), PHP is dead - plain and simple. Independent of whether it is good or not, selecting dead or obscure technologies for your clients is completely irresponsible and leaves them with a maintenance catastrophe just because you like php. Yes there is a lot of hipster-ism out there in platform choice but there are plenty of mature, fast, and popular options out there. PHP is not one of them.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by realPubkey »

naranha wrote: post #203
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too expensive to be worth it. I'm totally fine with outsourcing stuff that is difficult and third parties can do better, but in this case the amount of stuff you're playing egregious "cloud" pricing for is too much. Just spend a handful of days learning one of the open source stacks and you'll be set for life. It's totally worth it assuming you'll be making more than 1 app ever.

Opensource alternative to firebase: couchdb . Less features but the essentials are there...

If you use couchdb+rxdb, you have the same subscribe-to-collection thing but without the google lock in

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by crag »

eagsalazar2 wrote: post #199
ramy_d wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's worse to you, not the client. client actuality doesn't care and PHP is legacy I guess?

Actually they do if they have to maintain it or want hire really good developers to maintain it. Not saying PHP doesn't meet those criteria, it might in a given region or situation, but just saying your dismissal of this consideration is way off base. Good luck hiring anyone passionate about good software development or recently graduating from decent CS department to work on your PHP apps. I'm sure you are a great d…

"plus PHP makes you a very uncommon find, right"

What? Half the programmers I know in NYC write PHP. The other half write a combo of Java/C#/Python. These aren't programmers working for startups - they are working for companies and the government.

PHP is used everywhere. Except maybe in SFO (and surrounding area).

I mean look at the job listings for NYC, DC, Miami, Baltimore, Louisville, etc, etc.

Look I know this board is focused on Silicon Valley, but it's a big world out there.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by hjnilsson »

0xCMP wrote: post #201

The easiest thing to do is Heroku. They've really nailed it down and the +$2/month for their basic instance is easily worth it if you don't want to spend the time getting everything setup. Automation requires infrastructure and infrastructure is cheap only if you know how to set it up. I run ~3 side projects using Heroku to host a Django project with a GraphQL API talking to Heroku Postgres and Netlify the host the R…

What do you use to connect Django models / Postgres to GraphQL?

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by iopuy »

mariushop wrote: post #151

MeteorJS (Node) + React for https://eddtor.com/editor , really quick (1 month from idea to launch), more recently going for Go full stack (server side + template/html package for front-end). After staying on the bleeding edge of Javascript ecosystem for about three years, I missed the simplicity of a reliable server-side language + the battle tested JQuery (I know, right?!) plug-ins.

Spoken like someone having spent sometime with passportjs.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by [deleted] »

kristopolous wrote: post #168

Vanilla php + html5up + sqlite3. Everyone else here is trying to be stylish and fancy. Your customers don't care what language it's in or whether the code is beautiful. No cutting edge incomplete frameworks, convoluted tooling, piles of inaccurate documentation to read, inexplicable cryptic error messages with a bunch of incorrect solutions on stack overflow, or other incompetently over engineered bullshit. Just go a…

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Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by iopuy »

GijsjanB wrote: post #155

React, Express, Postgress, Nginx all in Docker containers managed with Docker Machine on a Digital Ocean box. It may not be the most simple/quick solution, but with some copy/pasting I can get something up rather quick and it's super flexible. Need OCR? Add a Tesseract container. Need a fileserver? Etc.

how do you handle authentication?

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by 0xCMP »

hjnilsson wrote: post #215
0xCMP wrote: post #201

The easiest thing to do is Heroku. They've really nailed it down and the +$2/month for their basic instance is easily worth it if you don't want to spend the time getting everything setup. Automation requires infrastructure and infrastructure is cheap only if you know how to set it up. I run ~3 side projects using Heroku to host a Django project with a GraphQL API talking to Heroku Postgres and Netlify the host the R…

What do you use to connect Django models / Postgres to GraphQL?

Graphene does most of the work for me with Python meta-magic.

https://github.com/graphql-python/graphene-django

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