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Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

#211
I'm sorry you're going through a bad time. Some things I can say:

- I think your wife needs to know. I have never taken a big decision like a job change without consulting my wife. We're in this together, and if I wanted to not have to share this decisions with someone else, I would have stayed single. Please don't take this as an attack, I am not judging you. I'm pretty sure you don't want her to know so you don't stress her, but you too are in this together, and there's no need for you to go through this problem alone.

- I think you may have a partial view of those jobs you mention. It's quite likely that a bagger at a grocery store does not suffer the stress you have at his or her job, but the pay is also much less, and the stress may come at other parts of life (for example, if that job forces him or her to live in a bad, dangerous neighborhood). Construction? working outside must be very hard in the middle of the winter or the summer, for example. I think it's good that you consider other options if being a founder is burning you out, but you don't need to go to the other extreme.

- You and your family are the ones to decide if quitting is a good option. Don't worry about the company in that case. You are entitled to pursue your own happiness, and people who work for startups (I know, I have) are or should be aware that failure is one of the options, usually the most likely one. So please don't feel like you need to put up with something that makes you supremely unhappy so that the company stays afloat.

So my summary is: Find what is best for you and your family, don't worry about the company if you really feel that unhappy, and if you do quit, if finances allow, take a short break and then don't go for the first thing that comes your way. You are smart enough to have started a company and getting it close to an acquisition. That's something I was never able to do, so I say 1) hats off to you, and 2) you won't have trouble finding a good job once you're ready to do that.

Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's ridiculous. 1) that's an idiotic stereotype. Men and women both will react in similar ways. 2) Doesn't make a difference what "type" of person she is. They are married and she has every right to know (and voice her opinion on) if a big part of their financial future will be impacted by him feeling burned out. Hopefully she'll be supportive, but either way she deserves to know the truth.

1) I never said that women are the only ones who do this. I just said if she is the type who will support you. Nowhere in my statement did I say anywhere near all women are of type X. You seemed to assume I meant that, which I didn't. I know the value of a supportive woman. My girlfriend is MOSTLY supportive but I don't dump everything on her. Learn to deal with stuff yourself and you'll be happier. 2) It absolutely…

> My girlfriend is MOSTLY supportive but I don't dump everything on her. Learn to deal with stuff yourself and you'll be happier.

Learning to deal with stuff yourself doesn't preclude asking your partner for help with making a decision that can impact both of you for the rest of your lives.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

#215
Being a founder is tough and the grind several years in can feel like a heavy burden. However, it sounds like with the LOI, you might be looking at an opportunity that comes with a welcome change of pace.

Directly answering your original question, I would take a serious look at option #2 ("Suck it up and work on the same thing for 2-5 more years").

In my personal experience, I sold my previous company to a much larger company some years back and it was a great change. Even though it was "working on the same thing" for 3 more years, there were new people to meet and new challenges to tackle. After all, humans are a social species and just having a different set of people to interact with can be a much needed change.

You might be thinking you'll be working on the same problems, but really it will be nothing alike. Your work might get better or it might get worse, but I guarantee that you and your company post-acquisition will be experiencing something very different. And I'm not just talking about the money part. That might be very helpful to get you out of this unhappy burnout.

If you need someone to chat with over email about what might be upcoming if you decide to take the deal, feel free to hit me up. Contact info in profile.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

#216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's ridiculous. 1) that's an idiotic stereotype. Men and women both will react in similar ways. 2) Doesn't make a difference what "type" of person she is. They are married and she has every right to know (and voice her opinion on) if a big part of their financial future will be impacted by him feeling burned out. Hopefully she'll be supportive, but either way she deserves to know the truth.

He's not saying that only women can react in a bad way. Re-read the statement by replacing women with people and she with they.

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Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

#217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's ridiculous. 1) that's an idiotic stereotype. Men and women both will react in similar ways. 2) Doesn't make a difference what "type" of person she is. They are married and she has every right to know (and voice her opinion on) if a big part of their financial future will be impacted by him feeling burned out. Hopefully she'll be supportive, but either way she deserves to know the truth.

He's not saying that only women can react in a bad way. Re-read the statement by replacing women with people and she with they.

If you have to replace words to interpret the statement correctly, then there is a problem with the statement, not the reader.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

#218
The good news is: you built a functioning system!

Within thay structure, there is likely much room to make it much more tolerable, even freeing.

I say good news, because many people manage to have both a restrictive structure and a failimg business.

So you'rs already halfway there, and frankly, you've done the hard half.

What you need do is figure out how mucn actually depends on you. Likely far less than you think.

Then, once you've done that, figure out how to have the other responsibilities taken care of otherwise.

For a couple of days, track everything you do and how long it takes you. If that doesn't capture the variety, do it for a week.

Then look it all over, and classify it. It is:

* something only you could do * something someone else could do (well enough, even if you'd be better) * actually unnecessary. (You'd be surprised how much stuff doesn't matter)

Then, you focus on:

1. Eliminating the unncessary 2. Identifying who could do the stuff in the second category, and create processes for them to follow. 3. Then you're just left with the essential. If you do ateps 1 and 2 well, you can then switch to replacing your higher level functions.

Pretend you're the acquiring company, and your (the founder) have quit abruptly. How does the acquiring company run things? They are surely under no illusion that you are an irreplaceable part of the business.

You might need a vacation, or a break, as others suggest. (You will eventually, for sure). But I find that when I get overwhelmed, addressing some of the stuff above is the biggest stress reliver.

I do find a week of comparative isolation helps for this task though. (Actually, removing yourself from the office periodically can be a good way to digure out what has to be done. Feix Denniss wrote this is how stuff ended up delegated from him)

Strongly recommended reading:

The Four Hour Workweek The e myth revisited This: https://sivers.org/delegate And this, as a caution: https://sivers.org/abdicate

Re the four hour workweek: selectively read this one. You're obviously not about to found an automated business from scratch. You're instead trying to make an existing operation less dependent on you.

So read for that purpose. It is an incredibly productive book if read the right way.

I run a business without employees, so take all this with a small grain of salt. I've been there with the overwhelm, but you have responsibilities I don't.

But I believe the above method will apply to your situation. You can turn your business from a drain to one with far more autonomy. It will be good preparation for phasing yoursef out with the acquistion.

Trust me, if you can make it to the other side, it's worth it. To decide every day what you want to do is an incredible freedom.

You do not get that as a walmart clerk. But if you've built a successful business and just need to optimize it, you are surprisingly close to a very free life.

Edit: Just reread and spotted the bit about domain knowledge. I'm in a bit of a similar situation in that the work I do is highly specific. For growth, I basically can't hire anyone to do part of what I do.

But, for all the admin work, I can, so I outsourced most of it.

For developer retention, I'd reach out to other software business owners in your city, and ask them how they do it. But that's likely a later stage thing. There are probably easier to deletate components you can take care of first.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

#220
post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's ridiculous. 1) that's an idiotic stereotype. Men and women both will react in similar ways. 2) Doesn't make a difference what "type" of person she is. They are married and she has every right to know (and voice her opinion on) if a big part of their financial future will be impacted by him feeling burned out. Hopefully she'll be supportive, but either way she deserves to know the truth.

1) I never said that women are the only ones who do this. I just said if she is the type who will support you. Nowhere in my statement did I say anywhere near all women are of type X. You seemed to assume I meant that, which I didn't. I know the value of a supportive woman. My girlfriend is MOSTLY supportive but I don't dump everything on her. Learn to deal with stuff yourself and you'll be happier. 2) It absolutely…

>blow you till your head pops

Gross. Please practice better analogies.

Edit: and the implication that sexual favors are the way a wife can support her husband... Geez...

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