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Ok, take Spain. Quality of life there is just substantially better than pretty much all of the US.
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Ask HN: Europe to East Coast, does it make sense to move at 50?
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People are mostly just pointing out the very objective losses to quality of life in the US compared to Europe, which is a fair answer to the original question. And day to day quality of life has nothing to do with geopolitics for most people. US just simply ranks far lower than Central Europe and the Nordics in these measurements. A lot of it is just city planning and infrastructure.
Norway has 5 million people, insane gas reserves, is a monoculture of ethnically similar people, has basically no immigration to speak of, and owns 2% of every publicly traded country worth a damn. I can’t believe anyone would point to this country smaller than a single metro area of the USA as something that is replicable.
> is a monoculture of ethnically similar people, has basically no immigration to speak
This isn't even true (immigration accounts for half of Norway's population growth) but let's take a more extreme example: Sweden, the country with 7th highest quality of life on planet Earth yet every 1 in 11 people is an immigrant. This single case proves your generalization wrong. Every 16th person is a first generation immigrant originating from outside of Europe.
You seem completely ignorant of the fact that we took hundreds of times more immigrants per capita than any country on Earth yet we all dominate the fuck out of ALL of quality of live rankings.
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What are you talking about, health care for the elderly is terrible! I guess you've never had to take care of an old person in the US? And never been exposed to northern European healthcare?
You bring up a good point, even though the US spends the most per capita on health care we actually have the worst outcomes https://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0252_health_outcomes_spen...
I bet sugar has a lot to do with it
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#204Hello there, I live in Berlin now and used to live in the United States. My family is there, and I go back to the east coast of the US often. The degenerating and dystopian quality of the United States is difficult to overstate, but almost impossible to capture verbally. Whatever one cause attributes to the systematic breakdown of the US, it is difficult to deny the realities of the decline -- massive alcohol and nar…
Is it really that bad in the US? Makes me wonder if I should continue to invest in the US stock market...
The US is vast, things are great where I’m at.
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#205Making your wife happy will certainly makes you happy. So if your wife is super excited about this, just follow her for the best or worse. Youll be together so youll be fine.
Id tell her that you will follow her wherever she goes. Its cliche I know but wouldnt you want to hear the same?
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If you don't want kids. If you do, it's always a factor. Do you want your kids to grow up in a stable culture, or in a declining one? Surrounded by polarization, extremes of all kinds, instability? I consider moving to the US for a couple of years for the money, but the second that kids are on the horizon, I would book a plane ticket to Europe.
I get that you may want to move here if you want to have kids, but isn't Europe declining at least as fast as the US?
European fertility levels are lower than the US, so they are declining faster.
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The top comment is about as anti-American as it can get. Apparently we’re all drug addicts and burning our own houses to the ground. It’s important to generalize for the sake of the OPs questions, but saying nonsense doesn’t help anyone.
That's what I'm talking about, it's just a completely accurate description and you're freaking out saying it said things that it didn't say! Zero things in it are false, but what you're claiming is: > massive alcohol and narcotic dependency issues This is a fact and it's not "[you're] all drug addicts and burning your own houses to the ground." The only way you can get upset is to straw man it really hard.
France has the highest per capita psych medication usage.
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I get that you may want to move here if you want to have kids, but isn't Europe declining at least as fast as the US?
European fertility levels are lower than the US, so they are declining faster.
Fertility rates are not the only factor in a declining society.
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#209Moving to the US at this point would be like buying a ticket on the Titanic just after it hit the iceberg. But sure, why not?
During Vietnam there were hundreds of bombings in the US per year.
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> Stay here, make this moderately good place even better. or better yet, come to the us and bring your good influence to help get this troubled place back on track. the political situation in the united states is indeed complex and troubled, but the influence and impact of the united states on western nations is undeniable. if it does implode in some horrific way, it's hard to imagine a scenario where it doesn't drag…
If you preach to a voting base who will vote against you at every turn, good influence has no value. You can only go where you are welcome to share, where ideas can be safely and intelligently discussed, and reasonable people can come to some sort of compromise or a solution all can agree on. US politics have become too polarized, where constituents don't want solutions (evidenced by them voting for representatives w…
Please make sure to keep voting after you move, as much as it might feel like spitting in the wind and yet another annual hassle - you really have to stay on top of both your voter registration, as well as your annual overseas ballot request, at least for Texas (every state has different voting from abroad policies, even different policies for military vs. non)
The official government website to help you navigate this is fvap.gov. The Democrats Abroad one that provides even more handholding and optional nagging: votefromabroad.org. They’ve only ever called to remind me that elections were occurring in Texas, and early enough that I could work out ballot issues, and then a follow-up a week or so before I really need to have that ballot in the mail.
I’m a semi-rural Texas voter who regularly has unsatisfying conversations with Ted Cruz’s snotty staffers and John Cornyn’s slightly politer ones, hanging up the phone to go enjoy the life I’ve made for myself in southern Germany.