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Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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I’ve been very satisfied with a Thinkpad E15, AMD Ryzen 7, 32GB of RAM, 1 TB SSD. Costed $1800

Before that I had another thinkpad that served me well for 5 years. It was actually still going strong but I figured out I wanted to upgrade before the coming Taiwan crisis just in case. Now I plan to own this laptop for hopefully a decade

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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** "I don't want to use a Mac" ** "I've had these problems with Mac" Reasonable response: Cool, use what works for you. EDIT> Here are some suggestions that match your constraints. Annoying response 1: You should reconsider because Mac works great for me. Annoying response 2: Your problems aren't real problems. Annoying response 3: Let's live debug your problems in this thread to see if they're real problems. Guys. I…

Proper response 1: Ignore this whole thread.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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True, but it is not a tool that works for everyone. In my case, I consider the Mac one of the cons of working at my current place of work. My days are filled with minor hassles that I could really do without. Doing simple things takes longer, and I have to deal with random freezes, slowdowns and even crashes that I did not have to deal with when using my own laptop for similar needs over the past couple of years (mos…

For me, the issue is that Mac isn't what we deploy to. We spend so mamy man-hours working around Mac-specific issues when we exclusively deploy to x86 Linux at the end of the day. M1 has brought even more issues with the architecture change, to the point where I'd say ~50% of our DevOps time is spent solving Mac issues. It sucks.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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Elsewhere in the comments there is a message saying that containers are constant headache under MacOS. Not having used it I can't comment. But containers are a regular part of my work. We have them in production and additionally I use them because I cannot install every required tool / environment to my machine at the same time. In that light the position of the best tool for the job doesn't sound to be undisputed.

I have several Docker containers running at any given time with no issues.

I can get Docker working on Mac too, but honestly its much easier and faster on Linux. Might even be better on Windows, too.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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I use a Framework and it's been fantastic. Even the fingerprint works "out of the box" (in quotes because in Arch Linux nothing is really out of the box... I just had to install the right package). The only particularly disappointing thing is that the battery drains mega fast while suspended. This is something I might be able to tinker away, of course. And for what it's worth, non-functional suspend is basically par…

> The only particularly disappointing thing is that the battery drains mega fast while suspended That's a killer - it's 2022 and Apple are still the only company who can get that right. I'd switch over to a Framework in an instant (for dual-boot Linux/Windows) if they could fix that.

Isn't this because MS (kind of?) forcing modern sleep mode?

I bought a XPS end of 2019 and had a very bad experience forcing windows to use s3 mode. Actually I eventually stopped bothering with windows standby and let it suspend to ram now because 95% the time I use linux anyways and there s3 works fine.

I was several times greeted with a very hot notebook at the morning, because windows decided to boot up and do system updates during the night while the notebook was supposed to sleep.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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After a ton of research I picked up a Dell XPS 15 (9510) around the holidays for roughly 1600 USD and switched from OSX to Manjaro and I'm in love. 11th gen 11900H processor. I started with the super high def display but returned it for the FHD display. The resolution of the FHD is more than sufficient (it's actually GREAT), the battery life is better, and it's matte display is much easier on my eyes. Things I love - 16GB of RAM (that is upgradable, and will be upgraded), two SSD slots (both occupied). I set it up to hibernate since s3 sleep is gone. I open/close my lid many, many times per day, and it comes back quickly enough for me (probably ~5s). And I appreciate that it's totally powered off that way when the lid is closed. The only hardware issue I'm aware of is the two extra subwoofer speakers don't yet work in Linux, and they sound really good in Windows (I kept a dual boot, but I very, very rarely use it). But the speakers still sound decent w/o the subs running, much much better than my wife's Ideapad. I don't know if the fingerprint scanner is operational and don't care about that, but everything else works well. I do lots of Zoom calls, camera is fine, etc, etc. I code on it all day almost every day, and the keyboard is a high point. I'm a trackpad user, and Linux trackpad is subpar, but after a ton of tweaking I'm happy and functional.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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This is probably an unpopular view, but I kind of use laptops as if they were terminals. If you want to spend $2k, I'd invest $1600 of that in a great desktop machine, and spend the other $400 on a cheap chromebook and tablets / keyboards / gizmos to log into it remotely.

I agree, except I haven’t found a ChromeBook I’ve liked.

For $900, you can buy an M1 MacBook Air. It is the sexiest dumb terminal I’ve ever used.

I had used Linux on a laptop for about 15 years prior. It is a fine 90% solution.

The Air is barely the same class of device: no noise, almost instant-on, battery lasts forever.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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OP has emphasized that they do not want to use Windows or MacOS and yet you recommend a Mac like some Apple fanboy. Why?

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You don't need any approval, I just don't understand that after saying "I don't want to buy a mac" you come with "You should buy a mac". What was the point of it?
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