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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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There are a few cults :D - Notion Nation - Roam Legion - Zettelkasten Zealots - Bear Bros PS. Add more ;)

Also the: - Evernote Evangelists - Orgmode Promotion Society - Plaintext Patriots - Joplin Javelins - Obsidian Organisation etc etc etc

> Plaintext Promotion Society

I think this was the best of them all :D

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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There are comments recommending popular apps like Notion, Joplin, Obsidian, etc. I find hard to trust those apps will last 10, 15, or 20 years. I have switched note-keeping apps a few times in the past and no longer want to do so. That's why I decide I will not use any of those apps. Now I use MediaWiki through docker (with Sqlite database) on my home server. It's lightening fast for my personal use, and comes with t…

The beauty of Obsidian (at least) is that it does not matter whether the company is still around. It’s your files in a standard Markdown format.

I used to think so. Now I believe it's a misconception.

Not all your notes can be just Markdown format. You will have image files. And then different apps handle image file location differently. Joplin turns attachment filenames to random strings.

Also, Markdown format is insufficient. I will need categories and subcategories, etc. And then different apps handle those differently.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

I switched from Evernote to obsidian.md last year and am very happy with my purchase. You have to pay for the ability to sync between devices but I'm okay with that.

You dont. I use iCloud to sync between my devices and its free. I donated to Obsidian team regardless because they created amazing piece of software but just pointing it out that you dont have to for it to work.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Notion has a very nice feature set. I like to use it for my freelance side business. Currently it is sadly the best set of features within one tool for me (at least the subset I use). I would love to switch to an open source variant to self host. But till then I will probably stay with it. Still. I don't like the slowness (web and app). I don't like how it feels just off sometimes. And how the Android app just so-so…

What bugs me more than Notion not being open source is that the notes are nowhere on my device apparently but on their servers. I don’t have anything locally. If something happens to Notion or I don’t have access to the web, I’m done?

Notion has export function that allows exporting your entire workspace to Markdown, HTML, or PDF. I do it once a month so that. (It'd be really nice though if Notion had an automated solution to back up to Google Drive, etc.)

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Also the: - Evernote Evangelists - Orgmode Promotion Society - Plaintext Patriots - Joplin Javelins - Obsidian Organisation etc etc etc

> - Orgmode Promotion Society Special OPS reporting for duty :-)

Orgmod Orthodoxer! :)

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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There are comments recommending popular apps like Notion, Joplin, Obsidian, etc. I find hard to trust those apps will last 10, 15, or 20 years. I have switched note-keeping apps a few times in the past and no longer want to do so. That's why I decide I will not use any of those apps. Now I use MediaWiki through docker (with Sqlite database) on my home server. It's lightening fast for my personal use, and comes with t…

I've previously bounced between different open-source notetaking apps but the great thing about any note format based on Markdown (Standard Notes/Obsidian/Zim/etc), is that it's pretty easy to move from one platform to another if they stop being maintained. Although in the end I ended up with Microsoft OneNote (with Obsidian for special cases), Microsoft isn't going away and they don't have a habit of killing core pr…

Yes. I almost settled on Microsoft OneNote. I just don't like several things of it. The writing and reading experience is not great. And I constantly find I really need one note to belong to multiple categories, but OneNote forces me to think where to save a note (which leaves me writing fewer notes).

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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"Exit to Community": https://www.colorado.edu/lab/medlab/exit-to-community

I did not know about that but thanks for sharing. this is what I am talking about though I believe it will have more teeth if VC firms have some sort of an alliance that adopts this model. in-fact if they do that they can dictate the terms of s/w release in more palatable licenses than say GPLv3. overall I feel a lot more work is needed in establishing some sort of commons framework.

> establishing some sort of commons framework

I very much agree, and there are some compelling projects happening in that space as well:

- https://commonsstack.org/

- https://commonsengine.org/

Getting VC firms on-board is a tough sell, though. Their model intrinsically involves getting a greater return than the up-front investment, usually through centralization, quasi-monopoly, and rent-seeking. The low hit-rate of breakthrough successes makes the perverse incentive all the stronger: VCs need unicorn cash-cows, to offset and subsidize the failures. At best, exit-to-community would be a mechanism to cut losses on investments with a small-but-loyal userbase, but without enough revenue to be truly profitable from the VC's perspective.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Personally, I'm using the next cloud notes app. It's somewhat limited - essentially just plain text with a bit of markdown support, but the upside is that my data is stored in plain text files that are easy to backup and/or export if I ever decide to switch to something else. I'm running it on an unRAID server with nightly backups, but you could just as easily run it from a raspberry pi. Before next cloud, I was usin…

I basically have the same setup, using nextcloud notes. The notes aren't in plaintext, they are in markdown. Joplin can use nextcloud has a sync backend. There are also other note taking apps that can use nextcloud has the sync backend but in the end I wasn't happy with anything. Going to test drive Obsidian and dendron.so to see how they go.

I'm using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.niedermann.... on my phone. It's not super fancy, but it works well. I might try out Joplin sometime, but I'm pretty happy with what I've got.
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