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Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by uoaei »

b3nji wrote: post #162
uoaei wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there anything similar for the self-hosted space?

Technically this is a self-hosted space, the app deploys a NixOS script which builds everything for you. https://nixos.org/ The app runs you through clearly defined steps on how to purchase the server, domain, and register everything together. You control the lot. The NixOS script is available on their repo to view, and fork yourself too. Their support is top notch, I've had many conversations with them, they have al…

I thought "self-hosted" meant zero cloud providers, i.e., running on a home server with a firewall.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by Tutanota »

culopatin wrote: post #188
gray_charger wrote: post #149

This will get buried with the other comments, but I've done a good job getting away from Google: Email: Tutanota Calendar: Tutanota Messaging: Signal Phone: GrapheneOS Maps: OsmAnd~ Apps: F-Droid or Aurora Store Mobile Browser: Vanadium (Chromium-based) Desktop Browser: Brave (Chromium-based) YouTube client: NewPipe The last three are iffy as far as de-Google-img goes. I used Firefox for years but recently I find it…

Any suggestions around the super slow Tutanota clients? It takes sometimes like 20 seconds for it to load the list of emails. Doesn’t sound like a lot but it adds up.

Hi there, Tutanota team here. We noticed your comment and just wanted to ask what client/device you are using to look into this? Usually Tutanota loads much faster, but for some devices we can definitely improve. We are also currently working on offline mode. Once that is done loading time will much reduce!

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by dyingkneepad »

greendude29 wrote: post #68
throwaway67743 wrote: post #14

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I really want to like ddg but it's just awful - not only are the results completely irrelevant but now it's started showing me russian language results, I'm in a country that uses the Latin alphabet.

How strange, I've been using DDG for a few years now and only rarely do I need to go to Google. Do you have examples of searches where Google is definitely superior (just out of curiosity, not challenging the notion)?

That matches my experience. DDG is only useful if I'm typing in English. If I type in my native language then DDG thinks it's Spanish and shows me a bunch of crap I can't read.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by culopatin »

Tutanota wrote: post #202
culopatin wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any suggestions around the super slow Tutanota clients? It takes sometimes like 20 seconds for it to load the list of emails. Doesn’t sound like a lot but it adds up.

Hi there, Tutanota team here. We noticed your comment and just wanted to ask what client/device you are using to look into this? Usually Tutanota loads much faster, but for some devices we can definitely improve. We are also currently working on offline mode. Once that is done loading time will much reduce!

Hi. iPhone 12, 13 pro and 14in MacBook Pro (m1 pro). Every time I open the app it shows me a “logging in” with an animated bar while loading. It would be acceptable if it took that time to pull new emails, but not to just look at the old stuff I have already retrieved.

I appreciate your quick response though, shows that you guys are on top of things.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by p0d »

I still use Gmail/Calendar but I do so through Fastmail. I like the Gmail client but I am happy to know I can ditch it anytime without drama. I have a number of domains and email aliases routing through Fastmail which has a copy of all my messages. So if I need to use another mail client, no biggie.

I also went back to Dropbox and love it. No Google drive client for Linux is bizarre.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by Tutanota »

culopatin wrote: post #204
Tutanota wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi there, Tutanota team here. We noticed your comment and just wanted to ask what client/device you are using to look into this? Usually Tutanota loads much faster, but for some devices we can definitely improve. We are also currently working on offline mode. Once that is done loading time will much reduce!

Hi. iPhone 12, 13 pro and 14in MacBook Pro (m1 pro). Every time I open the app it shows me a “logging in” with an animated bar while loading. It would be acceptable if it took that time to pull new emails, but not to just look at the old stuff I have already retrieved. I appreciate your quick response though, shows that you guys are on top of things.

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, this is exactly what offline mode will solve in a couple of weeks. Stay tuned!

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by b3nji »

uoaei wrote: post #201
b3nji wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically this is a self-hosted space, the app deploys a NixOS script which builds everything for you. https://nixos.org/ The app runs you through clearly defined steps on how to purchase the server, domain, and register everything together. You control the lot. The NixOS script is available on their repo to view, and fork yourself too. Their support is top notch, I've had many conversations with them, they have al…

I thought "self-hosted" meant zero cloud providers, i.e., running on a home server with a firewall.

That is a good point, I thought self hosted meant you are the person in charge, and nobody else can access, mess with, or bugger it up but you.

You have corrected my assumption, thank you.

You could take their NixOS script and run it on your own Raspberry Pi 4, I guess?

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by FireInsight »

zorrolovsky wrote: post #12

Not sure if you do it for privacy, ethical or practical reasons, but here's my journey: I removed my life from Big Tech (FB, TW, Gmail, YT, G Drive, MS, and other anti-user/spyware/malware companies). It was surprisingly easy to do and refreshing spiritually. First, philosophy: this article resonated so much with me that I made the brave step of deleting my big tech accounts and switching to Linux: https://medium.com…

The active maintainers of privacytools.io 'recently' split up into a new more community-focused site due to inactivity of the founder. https://privacyguides.org/

Read more here: - https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/pnhn4a/rpriv... - https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/pnh9n8/what_...

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by martin_a »

kashyapc wrote: post #181
martin_a wrote: post #175

> I want to eventually move away, especially gmail and drive. Run it yourself! Get yourself a solid hosting company with shared webhosting. For Germany, hetzner or all-inkl would be my choice. A hetzner "Level 1" shared webhosting for 1,90 €/month will come with an included TLD of your choice. Use that to host your own mailboxes. 10 GB webspace should be good for that, too. Then install a NextCloud instance on that w…

> Run it yourself! I get where you're coming from. But, most people just simply don't have the appetite to run their own mail. What we need are: paid services that are reasonably reliable, secure, respect your privacy, and provide human-based customer support. PS: I myself use Hetzner (for non-email stuff), and a hosted NextCloud service - both are great :)

Running your own mail is creating the mailbox and letting your mail client figure out how to connect to the server. There's not much work to do besides that. I think that's fine for anyone interested in becoming "independent" from services.
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