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Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Post by distrill »

mydeskistoosm wrote: post #173
distrill wrote: post #58

I've been at Facebook for about a year and a half. Before this I was at startups in the marketing and financial industries. We've been under scrutiny for the whole time that I've been there, and the company is pretty unpopular from a vocal population on here, but it's been really nice to work for. We obviously have job security, and I've been very impressed with the management chain above me. At least on my team, the…

> management... all come from eng for a few levels until you start hitting VP roles. And then where do they come from? Ivy league MBAs or IB? No shade at those guys, just curious. I'm early-career and I've got interests in finance and programming. It seems like I see fewer engineers running the show, as if committing to programming as a career tops-out at a certain point because you're missing certain experience. Tho…

some of them are still eng background but it's long enough ago that they're not really technical at all anymore. others are what you said, I guess for the most part. engineering and managing engineers are sort of similar, or at least you can see how one might be valuable to the other. engineering and managing managers are way further apart, so I'm not surprised that technical people have less presence the further up you go

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Post by ubermonkey »

itake wrote: post #153
ubermonkey wrote: post #62

I've never worked for a big famous tech firm, but I will absolutely tell you how I've managed to avoid hating work for 30 years: Find a relatively small firm, still owner-run and controlled. Avoid public firms. A corporation cannot show loyalty, but a HUMAN can. A manager has no real control -- their manager can reverse them. When you work for the owner, you can trust things a bit more IF you're working for a trustwo…

counter point: after working for small owner-run companies where the owner took everything personally, I will forever only work in big tech. The owner ran the show and was emotional. Every time a competitor launched something new, they would change course and race to copy them. Ended up delivering nothing and eventually laid off after 1.5 years. At a big company, everyone is spending someone else's money and the peop…

>the owner took everything personally

I mean, it's important to pick the right owner. It's PARAMOUNT you be personally compatible.

I've been at the same place for 14+ years for a reason.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Post by pmarreck »

sneak wrote: post #167
AYBABTME wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does "Nobody offshore" means here?

It means they don't hire non-Americans, which tells you something else about the company.

No, no it doesn’t. Given the significant advantages of hiring physically-local people, you cannot simply draw whatever conclusion you seem to desperately want to.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Post by 999900000999 »

majikandy wrote: post #164
999900000999 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience was the opposite, the only time I've ever had someone pay me late, and on top of that asked me to work for free was when I was dealing with a very small business owner. You either need to have some VC funding, or be a well-established company for me to even want to apply. I guess there might be some unicorn bootstrapped exceptions to the rule, but in general I find the bigger the company the smoother th…

I could have written almost the same 2 paragraphs. Feels like you worked where I worked. Never again.

And when I say late I mean I didn't get my first paycheck until 60 days after I started!

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Post by mraza007 »

dsr_ wrote: post #24

I work for a small financial SaaS in Boston. 30-50 people. Nobody offshore. I've worked here for 18 years and 11 months and a couple of days. Yes, we're hiring. The best thing about the company are the people who are already here. The basic hiring criteria are "clever, competent and kind". That doesn't mean we never have disagreements, but they tend to be technical disagreements about the best approach to reach the s…

Just curious if you don’t mind can you share the name of the company you work for

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Post by dack »

somerando7 wrote: post #99
distrill wrote: post #58

I've been at Facebook for about a year and a half. Before this I was at startups in the marketing and financial industries. We've been under scrutiny for the whole time that I've been there, and the company is pretty unpopular from a vocal population on here, but it's been really nice to work for. We obviously have job security, and I've been very impressed with the management chain above me. At least on my team, the…

Agreed, liking it here so far. But you do have to make sure you get on an interesting team. I wouldn't want to be on a lot of different teams here.

Which ones wouldn't you want to be on? Or at least is there a pattern to them?

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Post by halfmatthalfcat »

vmception wrote: post #192
dbancajas wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why did you quit?

All FAANG/MANGA are two years stints. Its a common experience but of course many people stay longer and are comfortable with that traditional view of being married to a corporation. A) Netflix is an ideal first company in the Silicon Valley circuit because their compensation package is a simple formula of , which makes negotiating the next place much easier because you’re more liquid already and already know what the…

Why are they two year stints when usually you're getting RSUs as part of your package that often have a 4 year vest?

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Post by drzoltar »

jedberg wrote: post #89
dbancajas wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why did you quit?

I started a startup a few days after I left. Also had a baby a few months before leaving and really liked the schedule flexibility when I was on paternity leave.

Can you speak about your experience building a startup with a newborn nearby?

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Post by devKnight »

ProZsolt wrote: post #130
xtracto wrote: post #45

> There's an offshore team in Traansylvania busy making it a legacy codebase As someone working for a US company in Mexico, I take offense at that :(.

I've been in similar situation and I don't take offense at all, as I saw both side of the coin. I worked for an US based company through a Hungarian company. We were handled like normal employees. I was part of a US based team and reported for the team's manager. The only difference was that I had to go to my Hungarian manager for pay rises. The company got Mid/Senior employees for a Fresh Grad/Junior wage, which is…

I had a similar experience at a previous job, they hired tons of random developers and started paying per story point. Quit shorty after.

Also work remotely for companies in the states, nearshore.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Post by loxias »

wbh1 wrote: post #51

I've really enjoyed working for Linode. We're a smaller company (~250 people total), but work on a global scale. I've found the work to be challenging but rewarding, leadership to be approachable and willing to listen, and the benefits to be great. Coming from a large higher education environment (where the "Information Services" department was 600+ people) it's remarkable how much better the culture is here.

Loyal customer for more than 13 years now! You've got a great product at a great price! I considered applying for a job once, a while ago... Have you always been in Philly? I thought I dismissed applying because of location, but I love Philly...
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