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Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Post by hayst4ck »

bra-ket wrote: post #198
papertokyo wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your clear lack of desire of ability to engage with some very reasonable and intelligent points is exactly why Trump supporters are frequently characterized this way. You're a sheep if you blindly follow a small number of news outlets that lean very far to one side and spend most of your time surrounded by people with similar views. (This goes either way, of course) Not all Trump supporters are white supremacists, bu…

I’m surrounded by liberals and their bs, just like you. My only source of disinformation is liberal/mainstream media, just like yours. And I haven’t seen as many lies as I’ve seen last year, and this one, oh God. I’m ‘radicalized’ by you, dear liberal people, and I’m one of the 75M.

> I’m surrounded by liberals and their bs

If everything around you smells like shit, check your shoe.

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Post by ibeckermayer »

mhuffman wrote: post #195
jb775 wrote: post #165

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Human nature eventually turns deplatforming the deplorables into deplatforming anyone I disagree with . A decentralized Twitter would need decentralized moderation.

> Human nature eventually turns deplatforming the deplorables into deplatforming anyone I disagree with. I agree with this part, but how does this part: > A decentralized Twitter would need decentralized moderation. ... not just turn into the first part after a time? I don't think there will ever be a "truly" decentralized twitter that is popular, because it would necessary have to lack any type of non-first-person m…

> not just turn into the first part after a time?

It wouldn't turn into the first part, because "the banned" of some instance could go create their own instance run by their own moderation rules.

> It would attract types of information that most of us would agree that we do not want around (child porn, terrorism planning, etc) and with any sort of traction, the government would step in to shut it down.

If some instance of a federated system is allowing child porn or other criminal content to flourish then they should be shut down. Every instance would need to be held to a baseline standard for dealing with such content.

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Post by thu2111 »

itsbits wrote: post #44

I don't think there is any social media platform that will remain decentralised/open. Remember Twitter or for that matter Facebook in the beginning were not moderated as much as now. Entities like Governments can end up forcing that.

The problem those firms have is not government coercion but unchecked extremism in their own employee base.

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Post by ibeckermayer »

cydactyl wrote: post #73

I am the admin of both a Mastodon Instance( https://zee.li ), and a Peertube Instance( https://tube.zee.li ), both of which are ActivityPub based federated instances. While individual nodes are not decentralized the federated network as a whole is. It is ultimately up to you to choose a well-federated, fast, and reliable instance that meets your criteria for information freedom and user protections. You can find an u…

I signed up for and confirmed an account, but now when I navigate to zee.li I just get a blank screen. When I go to other pages, i.e. https://zee.li/settings/profile, I get an interface but it appears un-styled

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Post by mhuffman »

ibeckermayer wrote: post #202
mhuffman wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Human nature eventually turns deplatforming the deplorables into deplatforming anyone I disagree with. I agree with this part, but how does this part: > A decentralized Twitter would need decentralized moderation. ... not just turn into the first part after a time? I don't think there will ever be a "truly" decentralized twitter that is popular, because it would necessary have to lack any type of non-first-person m…

> not just turn into the first part after a time? It wouldn't turn into the first part, because "the banned" of some instance could go create their own instance run by their own moderation rules. > It would attract types of information that most of us would agree that we do not want around (child porn, terrorism planning, etc) and with any sort of traction, the government would step in to shut it down. If some instan…

> If some instance of a federated system is allowing child porn or other criminal content to flourish then they should be shut down. Every instance would need to be held to a baseline standard for dealing with such content.

... so moderation, then?

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Post by bra-ket »

hayst4ck wrote: post #201
bra-ket wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m surrounded by liberals and their bs, just like you. My only source of disinformation is liberal/mainstream media, just like yours. And I haven’t seen as many lies as I’ve seen last year, and this one, oh God. I’m ‘radicalized’ by you, dear liberal people, and I’m one of the 75M.

> I’m surrounded by liberals and their bs If everything around you smells like shit, check your shoe.

I wish you were right.

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Post by gw666 »

ekam wrote: post #29
nameless_noob wrote: post #13

There's Urbit and Twetch. First uses some of ethereum, and calling a twitter replacement is 1% of it's story. Twetch uses a bitcoin fork as a db and users have to pay to post, but get impression revenue directly

Urbit is interesting but $120 for a planet is egregious

That's what I said about Bitcoin at $1 (groan).... I'm heavy into Urbit now, learning their programming language, Hoon (more mindbending than Brainfuck).

I just checked on opensea.io; you can get a planet for 0.04 ETH--around $50.

Urbit is the Next Big Thing--I haven't seen anything like it in 40 years; it's a "computing platform" blank slate! I don't think it'll ever go away because there are enough tech people to keep it going. I can also see academia using it.

Setting up your own planet is a real hassle. Soon, you will be able to "rent" your own planet for a monthly fee (like paying for an ISP), and the provider will take care of all hardware and software. On the other hand, you can put your planet on a server for $10-$20/month.

Look into it; it's going to be a wild ride!

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Post by onpointed »

pharke wrote: post #189
onpointed wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a good point! Could someone (or many someones) provide 'suggested' blogs/posts as a service on top of the existing infrastructure?

That would be a good idea, provide a list of things you subscribe to and get back a list of things you might like.

Or a personalized/generated RSS feed?

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Post by prologic »

This is a question I had been asking for several years until I came across Twtxt (the spec/format originally created by Felix, @buckket, read about it at https://twtxt.readthedocs.org) -- When I came across it I saw a bit more potential so I created (what is effectively) a multi-user client also called Twtxt over at https://twtxt.net (launched in Aug 2020). Since then we've also created a Mobile App (Goryon) available in the App Store (iOS) and Play Store (Android), we also offer free (at this time) hosting of pods (individual instances) at https://twt.social/ -- Today we have a dozen pods/instances and some ~300 users. My own pod (twtxt.net) sees around ~4M hits/month :O
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