Ask HN: What do you self-host? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: What do you self-host?

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Post by chrissnell » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:08 PM UTC

At home, I run:

- A weather station that lives on a pole on the yard. Powered by GopherWX https://github.com/chrissnell/gopherwx

- InfluxDB for weather station

- Heatermeter Barbecue controller

- oauth2_proxy, fronted by Okta, to securely access the BBQ controller while I'm away. This proxy is something that everyone with applications hosted on their home network should look into. Combined with Okta, it's much easier than running VPN.

In the public cloud, I host nginx, which runs a gRPC proxy to the gopherwx at home. I wrote an app to stream live weather from my home station to my desktops and laptops and show it in a toolbar.

nginx in the cloud also hosts a public website displaying my live weather, pulled as JSON over HTTPS from gopherwx at home.

Re: Ask HN: What do you self-host?

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Post by asdkhadsj » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:12 PM UTC

On this note, I've got a few services I'd like to setup locally. I'm curious if I could set them up in a Docker-like fashion, where it's super easy to manage the individual container image - and then run it on some type of home "cloud". I debated reaching for Docker Swarm, but I'm curious:

What might be the easiest way to achieve this? Running a Kube cluster is insane for my needs, I imagine I'd be perfectly happy with a few Pi's running various Docker Containers. However I'm unsure what the easiest way to manage this semi-cloud environment.

edit: Oh yea, forgot Docker Compose existed. That may be the easiest way to manage this, though I've never used it.

Re: Ask HN: What do you self-host?

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Post by asdkhadsj » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:14 PM UTC

oarsinsync wrote: post #191

sdan wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the read! 1. This is hosted on GCP. Actually was thinking of using Cloudflare Argo once my GCP credits expire so that I can truly self host all this (although all I have is an old machine). 2. For me, Cloudflare makes my websites load faster on pages. Security wise, I have pretty much everything enabled... like always on HTTPS, etc. and I some strict restrictions on SSHing into my instance (also note that…

You lose the end to end encryption that you’d get by HTTPS directly to your home instead of proxying via CF, as CF will MITM all of your sessions. Browser CF, CF source server. Two distinct TCP sessions. Both potentially encrypted, but there’s no E2E encryption anymore.

> HTTPS directly to your home

Can you elaborate on this? Maybe I misunderstand you, but is there a good way to get HTTPS from your home?

Re: Ask HN: What do you self-host?

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Post by ianthiel » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:14 PM UTC

teddyh wrote: post #196

“Self-host” is such a weird word. Having your own stuff yourself should be the default , should it not? I mean, you don’t “self-drive” your car, nor “self-work” your job. The corresponding words instead exists for the opposites: You can have a chauffeur and you can outsource your job. I think the problem is entirely caused by the US having absolutely abysmal private internet speeds and capacity. Since you can’t then…

"self-driving" ones car may become the common parlance before we die

Re: Ask HN: What do you self-host?

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Post by pnutjam » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:14 PM UTC

OpenSuse Leap, that acts as a NAS for my other computers. At home: Borg backups jellyfin x2go

cloud (time4vps 1TB storage node) borg calibre AdGuard

-- home server data drive rsyncs to an internal data drive (XFS to btrfs), btrfs drive takes a snapshot and unmounts when not in use, then important stuff is rsynced to my VPS. --- home drives backed up with borg for encryption

Re: Ask HN: What do you self-host?

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Post by dillonmckay » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:16 PM UTC

teddyh wrote: post #196

“Self-host” is such a weird word. Having your own stuff yourself should be the default , should it not? I mean, you don’t “self-drive” your car, nor “self-work” your job. The corresponding words instead exists for the opposites: You can have a chauffeur and you can outsource your job. I think the problem is entirely caused by the US having absolutely abysmal private internet speeds and capacity. Since you can’t then…

So, that would be interesting to note who here is in the EU self-hosting w/ their symmetric, low-cost, high-speed ISPs, versus the US, paying $600/mo for a 5 year contract for 10/10 Mbit DIA setup (anecdote).

Re: Ask HN: What do you self-host?

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Post by notkaya » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:18 PM UTC

asdkhadsj wrote: post #203

oarsinsync wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You lose the end to end encryption that you’d get by HTTPS directly to your home instead of proxying via CF, as CF will MITM all of your sessions. Browser CF, CF source server. Two distinct TCP sessions. Both potentially encrypted, but there’s no E2E encryption anymore.

> HTTPS directly to your home Can you elaborate on this? Maybe I misunderstand you, but is there a good way to get HTTPS from your home?

Don't use CF. Route everything directly to a reverse proxy on your home server.

Re: Ask HN: What do you self-host?

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Post by dillonmckay » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:21 PM UTC

asdkhadsj wrote: post #202

On this note, I've got a few services I'd like to setup locally. I'm curious if I could set them up in a Docker-like fashion, where it's super easy to manage the individual container image - and then run it on some type of home "cloud". I debated reaching for Docker Swarm, but I'm curious: What might be the easiest way to achieve this? Running a Kube cluster is insane for my needs, I imagine I'd be perfectly happy wi…

You can run a single node k8s setup.

Re: Ask HN: What do you self-host?

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Post by dillonmckay » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:24 PM UTC

whalesalad wrote: post #22

Bums me out when I see people putting so many resources into running/building elaborate piracy machines. Plex, radarr, sonarr, etc... (you note some of these services but /r/homelab is notorious for this) Here’s my home lab: https://imgur.com/a/aOAmGq8 I don’t self host anything of value. It’s not cost effective and network performance isn’t the best. Google handles my mail. GitHub can’t be beat. I use Trello and Not…

Tell me about the wood shelving. Did you build that?

It seems to hold rack-mounted gear quite well.

Re: Ask HN: What do you self-host?

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Post by dillonmckay » Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 2:26 PM UTC

dkarras wrote: post #178

zanny wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It more generally burns me out that we as a society still feel it is necessary to construct and reinforce so arbitrary an apparatus as copyright to substantially stymie the tremendous potential information exchange of computer networks. Of all the ways to try to promote creativity in the 21st century, making information distribution illegal by default and then using force of law to restrict said distribution unless a…

>it is necessary to construct and reinforce so arbitrary an apparatus as copyright to substantially stymie the tremendous potential information exchange of computer networks. It makes sense when you consider that information is generated in the first place for an incentive, and that incentive is only possible when copyright guards it. People are more than free to create public information if they choose to do so (and…

Alot of us think 75 years + life of the creator is a bit excessive.