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Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by 0xCMP »

The easiest thing to do is Heroku. They've really nailed it down and the +$2/month for their basic instance is easily worth it if you don't want to spend the time getting everything setup.

Automation requires infrastructure and infrastructure is cheap only if you know how to set it up.

I run ~3 side projects using Heroku to host a Django project with a GraphQL API talking to Heroku Postgres and Netlify the host the ReactJS frontend. I serve the API on heroku's free domain and put the react project under app.projectname.com and use token auth to talk to the API.

Deployments are super simple. Including updates to and managing the database.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by naranha »

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #52
sampl wrote: post #27

Quickly? Firebase + React. Seriously, don’t overlook this combo. Auth just works. Hosting built in, no backend or database server to maintain. No API, just subscribe to a collection right from the view. It just works (and is easily swapped for the real deal if you need it). I made a guide/boilerplate to show you how (includes auth, CRUD, full text search, stripe subscriptions): http://getfirefly.org/

Too expensive to be worth it. I'm totally fine with outsourcing stuff that is difficult and third parties can do better, but in this case the amount of stuff you're playing egregious "cloud" pricing for is too much. Just spend a handful of days learning one of the open source stacks and you'll be set for life. It's totally worth it assuming you'll be making more than 1 app ever.

Opensource alternative to firebase: couchdb . Less features but the essentials are there...

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by eagsalazar2 »

billdybas wrote: post #167
dyeje wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It blows my mind that there still isn't a polished ORM for the node.js / Express ecosystem.

Datastore Agnostic: - JS-Data - https://github.com/js-data/js-data SQL: - Sequelize - https://github.com/sequelize/sequelize - Bookshelf - https://github.com/bookshelf/bookshelf - Objection - https://github.com/Vincit/objection.js - TypeORM - https://github.com/typeorm/typeorm NoSQL: - Mongoose - https://github.com/Automattic/mongoose - Thinky - https://github.com/neumino/thinky

All those listed in the SQL category (the category almost everyone actually cares about) are total crap compared to, for example, ActiveRecord. GP said polished not plentiful.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by Grue3 »

kristopolous wrote: post #168

Vanilla php + html5up + sqlite3. Everyone else here is trying to be stylish and fancy. Your customers don't care what language it's in or whether the code is beautiful. No cutting edge incomplete frameworks, convoluted tooling, piles of inaccurate documentation to read, inexplicable cryptic error messages with a bunch of incorrect solutions on stack overflow, or other incompetently over engineered bullshit. Just go a…

>Your customers don't care what language it's in or whether the code is beautiful.

Yes, but the person who has to code it cares. No reason to choose the worst of widely used programming languages and the worst possible database for asynchronous read/write patterns inherent to web apps, except as an exercise in masochism.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by iopuy »

0xCMP wrote: post #201

The easiest thing to do is Heroku. They've really nailed it down and the +$2/month for their basic instance is easily worth it if you don't want to spend the time getting everything setup. Automation requires infrastructure and infrastructure is cheap only if you know how to set it up. I run ~3 side projects using Heroku to host a Django project with a GraphQL API talking to Heroku Postgres and Netlify the host the R…

which token auth mechanism? Always curious to hear how others secure their endpoints.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by naikrovek »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #185
naikrovek wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, here's one reason: the amount of time saved when standing up a webapp on Rails is absolutely insignificant compared to the life of that webapp in all situations where that webapp is anything serious. Not to say that Rails apps aren't serious! I'm just saying that the time saved in standing up a webapp with Rails vs., say, Java, is miniscule compared to the develooment life of that application, overall. In short…

I entirely disagree with this. Rails is optimised for fast development. That isn’t just about first bring-up, but about long-term velocity too. You will almost certainly save time over pretty much any other available solution, even over the long term. Where Rails and Ruby fall down is going to be in performance and complexity. If your “simple” web app becomes a sprawling and complex mess, Rails won’t deal with that e…

Everytime I say anything on this orange website anymore it is immediately voted down.

I guess the orange website isn't for me anymore.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by markholmes »

cel1ne wrote: post #202

Kotlin, gradle, closure and tachyons.css. I wrote a short buildscript for that setup that i copy.

Tachyons is really underrated. Not having to write CSS - and more importantly, not having to debug the CSS you write today in five years - is really great.
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