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Ask HN: Examples of startups that failed due to moving slowly?

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Re: Ask HN: Examples of startups that failed due to moving slowly?

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>How slow is too slow?

That depends entirely on your financial structure, your product, and your own lifespan. If you never on-board investors and never depend on a loss-leader strategy for capturing market, you can small-business yourself from you mid-twenties to retirement and beyond. A lot of trade professions do exactly this sort of slow expansion; my neighbors is self-employed plumber and he's been routing tubs for the past two decades.

Re: Ask HN: Examples of startups that failed due to moving slowly?

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Jaiku, Pownce, Gowalla, Bing/MSN search, Posterous, Windows Phone There are tons of them. You'll see a lot of responses that claim all of these companies didn't die due to moving slowly, but for other reasons - that will also always be true though, even in cases where a startup moved too slow. For example, Windows Phone was both backwards, and slow to match the iPhone once it became obvious consumers loved touch. In…

I still miss Jaiku. I wonder if they would have survived if either they didn't get acquired by Google, or if Google keep supporting them instead of acquihiring.

Re: Ask HN: Examples of startups that failed due to moving slowly?

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If the growth rate is slower (or faster) than the optimal growth rate then the management has made a mistake (assuming they have any control over this). When you frame it this way what you are asking is have any startups failed for making mistakes which is does not need to be answered. What you are really asking is it possible to workout in real-time (no hindsight) what the optimal growth rate should be for each comp…

No, what they're asking for is concrete examples. Real-life examples are always more illuminating than theoretical discussions.

How can there be any “real-life” examples of failure for this reason unless you first determine what the optimal growth rate of the company should have been? If you can’t answer this question then any discussion about the reason for failure is a “just-so” story made up after the fact.

The more important question to answer is how can you work out what the optimal growth rate should be of any startup.

Re: Ask HN: Examples of startups that failed due to moving slowly?

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Digg, Delicious, Mixx - lost to reddit Plaxo - lost to LinkedIn Bebo - social media space became too crowded Geocities - died of natural causes Netscape - slow to adopt after v3

Delicious was a different product from Digg or Reddit, so that doesn't make sense.

Re: Ask HN: Examples of startups that failed due to moving slowly?

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AWS launched in 2006, while Google App Engine launched in 2008 and Google Compute Engine launched in 2012. But Amazon has always moved significantly faster than Google in the IaaS market, introducing the most comprehensive suite of infrastructure services and relentlessly undercutting on price. AWS has been consistently innovative while Google has long played catch-up at far too slow a pace.

Re: Ask HN: Examples of startups that failed due to moving slowly?

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I'd argue that HipChat, Campfire and Yammer all "lost" to Slack because they weren't moving fast enough. This Google trends line is interesting: https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=slack%2C%20hipchat%2...

Slack is a way to common term to gather any information from these trend lines.

Re: Ask HN: Examples of startups that failed due to moving slowly?

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Digg, Delicious, Mixx - lost to reddit Plaxo - lost to LinkedIn Bebo - social media space became too crowded Geocities - died of natural causes Netscape - slow to adopt after v3

Delicious was a different product from Digg or Reddit, so that doesn't make sense.

And Digg lost for several reasons, but one of them wasn't that it moved too slow. More the opposite, really. They released a buggy version too soon, when the users were already angry and considering leaving.
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