Ask HN: Career trajectory? I'm terrible
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#22b) Maybe the platforms/technology/projects you've chosen aren't clicking with what you want really to do, just because its popular doesn’t mean it works for everyone.
c) Sounds like you might trying too hard, relax your self standards a little and concentrate of getting something running to your satisfaction, don’t worry about tight/pretty code. Once you like how it works, go back and re-factor if you feel the need.
c-2)Take one of your earlier projects and revisit them, might have some new insights on how to prop up some earlier work. Sometimes looking over my old code is a mixture, of "I can do that so much better now" and "wow, I wrote that?!"
d) you might be REALLY good at debugging from what you say.
e) you know, you can build stuff on your own. Reinventing the wheel is also something to do, maybe you can make a spiffier one.
f) maybe the jobs you are applying for are too high for starting out. Or maybe you should take a non-developer position and work your way up through the company (this is how a lot of folk do it, including me).
g) network, it's not always what you do but also who you know, even in non-teach, someone might know somebody...
Re: Ask HN: Career trajectory? I'm terrible
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did OP said he is depressed? Did he say that he cannot do anything? He said he keeps failing, and is feeling bad because of that, which is 100% normal. Can we stop diagnosing every case like this as a case of depression? Just because you had depression, doesn't mean every case of 'having a bad time', is a case of depression, and you have to hasten every one having a bad time to take anti-depressants. I am seeing this…
He is "I feel like eating a bullet would make the world a better place." even joking about life ending events can show visualization and ideation and the fact that he/she feel like the world would be a better place clearly shows long term self devaluation. A person that has overcome depression can clearly spot the signs in another person, it's very strange you don't see them in yourself when you are in it, but once y…
I think we can consider the OP's case as falling under
> Depressed mood may not require any professional treatment, and may be a normal reaction to certain life events...
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#24Re: Ask HN: Career trajectory? I'm terrible
#25I invite you to step out of yourself for just a moment. Position your perspective within someone else of your choosing; a co-worker, a manager, an interviewer. Read both the post from today and the one from several months back. Ignore the particular details of the narrative itself. Instead, see what you can pick up on, sense, about the _author_ of the narrative. Then, observe how, what you sensed about the author, makes you, the observer, feel.
Go ahead. I'll wait.
As the observer, did you pick up on desperation, despair, defeatism, confusion, and anguish?
How well do you think you'd be able to hide those mental states in person or even just on the phone?
I think we already know the answer to that question.
Being around a person that's experiencing acute non-positive states induces acute non-positive states in others. Considering that most people spend the vast majority of their time preoccupied with both moving towards feeling good and moving away from feeling bad, they would do everything in their power to avoid being around such a person.
It's not even about the words that would be coming out of your mouth. It's easily detectable before so much as a single word is uttered. Your posture, facial expressions, respiratory rate, inflection, intonation, etc., will tell anyone, everything, in an instant.
This is why the places that you have interviewed with have not hired you. It has nothing at all to do with your technical competencies, because your technical competencies were not, in fact, evaluated. They shut down, disqualified you virtually immediately based solely on "lack of cultural fit", went through the motions, and then fed you a generic line.
When people spoke about the "experience they want," I don't think you quite understood the subtlety. They were not referring to your technical background. They were speaking to what they wanted in terms of the experience of having a new hire at the office: a positive, uplifting, energizing experience.
As an aside:
* Trying and failing is good, not bad. Why? Because you're learning. Not trying at all is bad.
* No-one wanting to hire you doesn't mean what you think it means. No-one wanted to hire Steve Jobs.
* Similarly, just because the few companies that you've interviewed with didn't extend an after does not mean that you colossally effed anything up.
* You can't say that "no-one" wants to hire you. You've interviewed at only a tiniest fraction of potential employers.
You may or may not feel better knowing that the roadblock is your disposition, as opposed to your technical competencies, but at least you now know the truth.
The question is _why_ is this your disposition? The answer is quite obvious.
In your short post from today alone, I have counted a staggering thirty two occurrences of first-person pronouns. Here's what your post looks like with all of the other words removed:
I...I...I...my...I'm...I...
I...I...my...I...me...I...
my...I...I...I...I...my...
I...I...I...I...I'm...I...
I...me...I'm...I'm...I'm...
I...I'll...I.
It's no wonder at all that you are the way you currently are; you are stuck -- trapped -- instead your own head. Replaying and re-analyzing the past, over and over, worrying about and agonizing over the future, over and over. When other people are speaking to you, you're not really listening -- they don't have your full undivided attention -- you're off in your head doing something else. When you're eating, you're not tasting your food, you're too distracted talking to yourself. You are perpetually lost in thought. This is why you're struggling with trying to get good on your own and struggling with trying to do stuff on your own.
Your self-identity is far too strongly, unnaturally, and unhealthily, intertwined with things that it should not at all be intertwined with. You are not your career; You are not your skill at programming. Your value as a person is not measured by your career progression; your value as a person is not measured by your programming skill.
This is the point where you have a decision to make.
You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and the bullet that you spoke of may very well, at some point, find you. Considering that you've already made suicidal statements, it may be sooner than later. Let's hope that you don't take the blue pill.
You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland, and you show yourself just how deep the rabbit hole goes. You enroll in an MBSR course in your area, or find a Mindfulness retreat, or listen to headspace.com, or find a good Mindfuless book. Mindfuless will allow you to dissolve those negative emotions, gain insight, not be stuck in your own head all of the time, attain full control of your internal state, and so much more.
Only then; and not before; will you have transformed your disposition such that you'll easily find a job that will progress your career, have successes doing your own stuff, and be able to do the best work of your life. None of these things will ever be possible if you're constantly experiencing negative emotions which are inducing pain, and distracted by negative thoughts that are constantly stealing your attention, as this will only serve to cause others to feel uncomfortable, unsafe, and/or ill at ease around you.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
He is "I feel like eating a bullet would make the world a better place." even joking about life ending events can show visualization and ideation and the fact that he/she feel like the world would be a better place clearly shows long term self devaluation. A person that has overcome depression can clearly spot the signs in another person, it's very strange you don't see them in yourself when you are in it, but once y…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_%28mood%29 I think we can consider the OP's case as falling under > Depressed mood may not require any professional treatment, and may be a normal reaction to certain life events...
It doesn't matter that it's situational, although that should alter the "treatment" options.
Re: Ask HN: Career trajectory? I'm terrible
#27Hoboon, I invite you to step out of yourself for just a moment. Position your perspective within someone else of your choosing; a co-worker, a manager, an interviewer. Read both the post from today and the one from several months back. Ignore the particular details of the narrative itself. Instead, see what you can pick up on, sense, about the _author_ of the narrative. Then, observe how, what you sensed about the au…
Re: Ask HN: Career trajectory? I'm terrible
#28Hoboon, I invite you to step out of yourself for just a moment. Position your perspective within someone else of your choosing; a co-worker, a manager, an interviewer. Read both the post from today and the one from several months back. Ignore the particular details of the narrative itself. Instead, see what you can pick up on, sense, about the _author_ of the narrative. Then, observe how, what you sensed about the au…
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#29Re: Ask HN: Career trajectory? I'm terrible
#30First, please go see a doctor. You know how shitty you feel right now? That isn't a normal state of being. I've been there, I really have, I know it feels hopeless right now, but I promise it's not. If you're anything like me you might feel that getting anti-depressants is somehow wrong or cheating, or that you're admitting defeat , but you know what? They are just another tool that you can use to improve your life.…
> That is called learning. I get the tripe of what you mean, but perhaps I fail at failing, then. I don't really learn anything. Everything I do is wrong, I'm told. I wish antidepressents would work. If I could cut out parts of my brain and be better, I would. I just don't get it. Everyone else has done something right or at least better. People say things and everyone else gets it. I've been working for seven years,…
Why do you think that? What is the evidence for it?