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Re: Ask HN: Which file storage service would you recommend for the long term?

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I use Arq [ https://www.arqbackup.com ] which is provider dependent and doesn't lock you into a specific cloud like Backblaze or Crashplan. You can set it up to sync to Glacier/S3/Dropbox/GDrive/OneDrive/Local NAS/FTP server or any combination of them if you want to have multiple copies. I get 1TB of OneDrive free with Office365 so backup to that but also to S3 so that if I was to stop using Microsoft I'm not tied do…

Another vote for Arq if what the OP wants is backup. This lets you pick and switch storage providers. I don't think you should plan on staying with any provider for more than 2-3 years, the landscape changes too fast. Arq lets you be independent.

Re: Ask HN: Which file storage service would you recommend for the long term?

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What to use depends on your use case. Are you looking for backup or are you looking for sync and 'always there'? For the former, I'd recommend using Amazon's Glacier or Google's Nearline storage. If you intend to retrieve your files often, Nearline will do better as the costs are lower and retrieval is faster. You'll likely want to wait until it's out of beta first though, which might take a while. If you don't inten…

I'm wary of Google products, because they seem to go through radical changes or get killed off pretty regularly. EDIT: same with iCloud (or MobileMe or whatever it was before that)

I highly doubt Google would close a data storage service (like Nearline or Drive) without ample time for users to move elsewhere.

Re: Ask HN: Which file storage service would you recommend for the long term?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dropbox (which you have heard of) is built on top of Amazon S3. Glacier is a sibling product to S3 and similiarly unlikely to disappear.

Dropbox doesn't use S3 anymore. They did initially. That being said S3 is a pretty good solution.

What do they use now?

Re: Ask HN: Which file storage service would you recommend for the long term?

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The best way to plan for 50 years is to continually have a 1, 5 and 10 year plan.

Your 50 year requirement is the real tough problem here. I would have a hard time recommending any of the types of services your are referring to for more than a year at a time. To achieve anything beyond that you need to look for a service that is VERY standards based and portable.

You do not mention a need for "backup/restore" or "version history. So lets treat sync & cloud access separately from backup & versioning.

File Sync and Cloud Access

I think any thing that syncs local files to the cloud will do as long as you don't rely on special features of a specific service. This sort of means that iCloud and S3 are out of the running since neither of them is a cross-platform file directory syncing system.

You could keep copies on one or more systems that you control and using the service to provide sync and cloud access. Then if you decided that the service that you are currently use no longer meets your needs, or is out of business, you could easily switch to a different syncing/cloud service.

Today I would say that Dropbox is the best solution. Personally, I am beginning to replace Dropbox with BitTorrent Sync and keeping a close eye on syncthing.net. Although, BT Sync doesn't have a web interface, I consider that a plus for privacy, and BT Sync's mobile apps and built in sharing features replace most of what I need from Dropbox's web interface.

Backup/Versioning

This is where it gets really tricky looking out 50 years. I simply can not recommend thinking out that long term. I think you can look out 10 years at a time, and then make choices for the next 10 years.

Something like rdiff-backup with would last at least 10 years, but it doesn't have the easy to access interface. (last I check the radio-backup web interfaces where not very good).

Personally, I use a combination of diff-backup and Crashplan pointed at local and remote storage. CrashPlan gives me remote access via the web and apps, and a professionally managed data store. (I feel that while I don't trust others with protecting my data, I don't trust myself 100% either). I also use Arq (with now has a Windows client, and provide an open source code for doing a restore) and backup to a remote site.

https://www.crashplan.com

https://www.arqbackup.com

http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup

https://syncthing.net

https://www.getsync.com

Re: Ask HN: Which file storage service would you recommend for the long term?

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I use Arq [ https://www.arqbackup.com ] which is provider dependent and doesn't lock you into a specific cloud like Backblaze or Crashplan. You can set it up to sync to Glacier/S3/Dropbox/GDrive/OneDrive/Local NAS/FTP server or any combination of them if you want to have multiple copies. I get 1TB of OneDrive free with Office365 so backup to that but also to S3 so that if I was to stop using Microsoft I'm not tied do…

Another vote for Arq if what the OP wants is backup. This lets you pick and switch storage providers. I don't think you should plan on staying with any provider for more than 2-3 years, the landscape changes too fast. Arq lets you be independent.

Aren't the backups now dependent on (1) the storage provider and (2) the Arq software developer?

You lose Arq, you lose your backups.

Re: Ask HN: Which file storage service would you recommend for the long term?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another vote for Arq if what the OP wants is backup. This lets you pick and switch storage providers. I don't think you should plan on staying with any provider for more than 2-3 years, the landscape changes too fast. Arq lets you be independent.

Aren't the backups now dependent on (1) the storage provider and (2) the Arq software developer? You lose Arq, you lose your backups.

The format Arq uses is open and documented, so that you can restore without having Arq if necessary:

https://www.arqbackup.com/s3_data_format.txt

And there are tools to help:

http://sreitshamer.github.io/arq_restore/

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