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Re: Ask HN: Is Rails really dying?

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Post by tptacek » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 5:22 PM UTC

All of Facebook was built in PHP long after the bells had started tolling for PHP's demise. People still vociferously defend its use. Predicting the death of a programming environment is a sucker's game.

Avoid jobs that require you to be an expert at a particular framework in the door.

Re: Ask HN: Is Rails really dying?

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Post by automathematics » Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 5:32 PM UTC

khaki54 wrote: post #18

automathematics wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious why you recommend dart? I definitely wouldn't put that on my list, but everything else seems pretty on point.

Dart is kind of speculative -- but it has the backing to be a big thing in a few years. And since it's the "anti-javascript" I think it adds more to a developers versatility than learning 5 javascript frameworks. Our dev teams that have adopted it like it, and it's been very successful for them.

Yeah but they just announced the removal of the VM from chrome and making it compile into JS, right? Did that change your opinion at all?

Re: Ask HN: Is Rails really dying?

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Post by spankalee » Wed, Apr 01, 2015, 12:15 AM UTC

khaki54 wrote: post #18

automathematics wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious why you recommend dart? I definitely wouldn't put that on my list, but everything else seems pretty on point.

Dart is kind of speculative -- but it has the backing to be a big thing in a few years. And since it's the "anti-javascript" I think it adds more to a developers versatility than learning 5 javascript frameworks. Our dev teams that have adopted it like it, and it's been very successful for them.

I wouldn't call it "anti-JavaScript", but "sane JavaScript".

Dart's very similar to JavaScript in a lot of ways, especially most of the syntax. The main difference is that programs have a static shape, which makes tooling and reading a codebase much, much easier.

Re: Ask HN: Is Rails really dying?

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Post by spankalee » Wed, Apr 01, 2015, 12:16 AM UTC

automathematics wrote: post #22

khaki54 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dart is kind of speculative -- but it has the backing to be a big thing in a few years. And since it's the "anti-javascript" I think it adds more to a developers versatility than learning 5 javascript frameworks. Our dev teams that have adopted it like it, and it's been very successful for them.

Yeah but they just announced the removal of the VM from chrome and making it compile into JS, right? Did that change your opinion at all?

Dart's always had to compile to JavaScript - the VM was probably never going into other browsers even if it went into Chrome. All of the developer productivity benefits are still there.