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Re: Ask HN: Should I get a mechanical keyboard?

#21
My employer wouldn't go for it, so I sprung for a mechanical keyboard out of pocket. I got an IBM M12, which is a variant of the Model M clicky keyboard with a Trackpoint built in. It looks and works like it's brand new.

Not thrilled with the trackpoint, the sensitivity is too low for a modern hi-res display. If I turn the OS-level mouse speed way up, the trackpoint works OK but the other mouse moves way too fast. I'd love one of the modern-built clicky keyboards with the built-in trackpoint, but I can't find them. Thinking about getting a gaming mouse that can have its DPI turned way down.

Or I could learn vim or emacs and forget about the mouse entirely...

Re: Ask HN: Should I get a mechanical keyboard?

#22
I have Cooler Master Storm Rapid I mechanical backlit keyboard. It's pretty compact as it doesn't have numerical keyboard. It has nice light effects as it pretty configurable. I am not really impressed with this keyboard - I make a lot typing mistakes, it's very sensitive. For comparison, I can type faster and with fewer typing mistakes on Lenovo e325 laptop keyboard. It costs about 100euro in my country.

I don't have experience with other mechanical keyboards, so i would appreciate if someone can compare it to other mechanical keyboards.

Re: Ask HN: Should I get a mechanical keyboard?

#23
If you have something that works for you, you may just want to stick with it. That being said, I've tried a bunch of mechanical keyboards and have been using a Kinesis Advantage for about five years: http://jakeseliger.com/2011/07/17/further-thoughts-on-the-ki... and am in fact typing on one now.

Perhaps the best recommendation I can give is simple: I'd never go back if I could avoid going back.

Re: Ask HN: Should I get a mechanical keyboard?

#25
To address pinky pain (based solely on my own experience, this is not ergonomic or medical advice), yes. In my experience, the most painful thing about typing for my fingers is the impact from bottoming out the keys while typing (which is required to activate the membrane switches found in most inexpensive keyboards). You'll want to learn how to type without bottoming out the keys (or pick up some o-rings to soften the landing), but absolutely yes.

I would recommend the Cherry MX Brown switches: they require less effort to push down than other switches, but still offer some tactile feedback when they're activated. If you're comfortable relying on muscle memory instead of tactile feedback, then the red switches will be a real joy to use. Blues are nice, but in your typical office situation they are almost universally reviled.

One advantage of going for reds - there are a number of game peripheral manufacturers which offer keyboards based on the Cherry MX Red.

Re: Ask HN: Should I get a mechanical keyboard?

#26
I use them and love them.

I was experiencing finger and wrist pain from typing and switched to a mechanical keyboard, which seems to have stopped the pain. Note that I also went to a tenkeyless layout in order to prevent a lot of motion when I move my right hand to use the mouse.

You'll want to do some research into switches, as not all mechanical keyboards are alike. The most popular variants are probably Cherry MX blues and browns. I prefer the clicky feel of the blues, but they are really loud.

Re: Ask HN: Should I get a mechanical keyboard?

#27
I use a Kinesis (https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage-for-pc-mac/), which is a mechanical keyboard with an ergonomic layout. It saved my wrists while writing my master's thesis. I use an MS 4k for a while, but the Kinesis is lightyears ahead in terms of comfort.

It takes about a week to learn to type on it, as the columnar layout is very different, and I had to learn to retype some characters (like x, c, and v). It's easy to switch back and forth between typical keyboards and the kinesis, so nothing's lost in the learning.

Re: Ask HN: Should I get a mechanical keyboard?

#28
I prefer the Kinesis Freestyle over mechanical keyboards. The Kinesis has low-force key switches, so overall fatigue is lower. I also use the Ascent bracket from the same company, which gives me a split, vertical keyboard. It's really nice, and I've seen a noticeable drop in wrist and finger fatigue because of it.

Re: Ask HN: Should I get a mechanical keyboard?

#29

I have the opposite setup, I use a mechanical at work and an MS Natural 4000 at home. To be honest, I don't notice much of a difference in strain between the two and would even suggest that simply having two types may be beneficial. I do enjoy using my mechanical keyboard more. It certainly feels faster and you get a bit of a high when really pounding out lines of code, just because of the sound, but I don't know tha…

With a mere anecdote, I would also suggest having two kinds. Remember, the strain is a repetitive stress injury. Mechanical keyboards may be able to cut down on it, but RSI can still happen. I was getting pain in my wrist from using a mouse, so I switched to a trackball. I loved it so much that I bought one for work, too. A few weeks went by and suddenly I was having sharp pains in my thumb and after another week I was unable to move my thumb. I switched back to a regular mouse at work, keeping the trackball at home, and it balanced out.

So in my limited experience, just making sure you're load-balancing the stress you put on your hands every day makes a big difference. Not sure if this will hold true for a mechanical keyboard vs a regular keyboard, as it may not be enough of a difference. But it might.

Re: Ask HN: Should I get a mechanical keyboard?

#30

There is a lot to be said for having the same keyboard everywhere - I have several Logitech MK250's - the keys are where they should be rather than just slightly non-standard. Therefore consider sticking with what you know.

Agreed, though that keyboard would drive me nuts.

I stick with the basic non-mechanical cheap-o keyboards with what I call the "classic" layout- no weird shapes, no playing around with the "Insert", "PageDn", "PageUp", etc locations. This way, when I move to another keyboard or go to help one of the vast majority of people who use a "classic" keyboard, I'm not clumsily typing like it's my first day using a computer.

My family had an IBM PS/1 with a Model M variant that was clacky as hell and honestly the feel wasn't something I'd want in a keyboard. I do recall really liking the feel of the Apple Extended keyboard.

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