Ask HN: Where to Register a Company When Being a Traveling Digital Nomad?
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Re: Ask HN: Where to Register a Company When Being a Traveling Digital Nomad?
#22Lots of variables there.
Tax offices in most countries have ways of ignoring cute little "bulletproof" accounting setups, throwing the book at you even retroactively (money, even jail time).
I mean, if you're a small fish, you may well slip under the radar. But obviously you're asking for trouble if you set up a company somewhere, hoping for the best, because someone on HN suggested "country XYZ, low taxes!".
For what it's worth, I "digitally nomaded" through Asia on tourist visas, acting as my normal, home legal entity. No problems. But don't take that as legal advice :)
Re: Ask HN: Where to Register a Company When Being a Traveling Digital Nomad?
#23Wow I was just thinking about this, having a cup of coffee next to a creek out on the edges of town, after asking this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8939426 Right now I'm in the United States and I'm forming a Nevada Series Limited Liability Company. I needed a Registered Agent to do that, but the question came up for me: how long do I need to be somewhere, and what kind of mailing address do I need, to not e…
Everybody talks about Delaware corp (as they've matured business laws) ..but very few knowt hat when it comes to taxes then Nevada and Wyoming are the best .... however recently I've heard that if you're selling stuff on Amazon or any other e-commerce store then taxes are different depending upon where you're located ... and you may not even be eligible for selling in few states - I wish someone can explain this in a…
Re: Ask HN: Where to Register a Company When Being a Traveling Digital Nomad?
#24HK - easiest, cheapest and no taxes for income sourced outside of HK.
http://www.guidemehongkong.com/taxation/topics/hong-kong-tax...
Re: Ask HN: Where to Register a Company When Being a Traveling Digital Nomad?
#25HK and Singapore are both good options. Both also really good for offshore banking.
Re: Ask HN: Where to Register a Company When Being a Traveling Digital Nomad?
#26HK - easiest, cheapest and no taxes for income sourced outside of HK.
According to the following calculator there is around 16.5% tax (on $100K income) ... you can compare it with bunch of company and it looks like Singapore is the lowest. http://www.guidemehongkong.com/taxation/topics/hong-kong-tax...
To pay no tax all your income needs to come from outside of HK in addition to not having a local operation.
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#27Dubai is the place, Tax free, as low as ~4000 Euros/year for a single person (FZE) company. Nothing else is required (office/staff), virtual services are provided at additional fees (secretary etc ..)
Re: Ask HN: Where to Register a Company When Being a Traveling Digital Nomad?
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the following calculator there is around 16.5% tax (on $100K income) ... you can compare it with bunch of company and it looks like Singapore is the lowest. http://www.guidemehongkong.com/taxation/topics/hong-kong-tax...
That's for locally sourced income or if you have a real office in HK. To pay no tax all your income needs to come from outside of HK in addition to not having a local operation.
http://www.guidemehongkong.com/taxation/corporate-tax/calcul...
btw, do you have any info on any agent who can help with this? do you need a physical address (even for opening a bank account)? Do you need to visit HK for any reason to setup a company?
Re: Ask HN: Where to Register a Company When Being a Traveling Digital Nomad?
#29If you're American, this gets really sticky. The US taxes you on your worldwide income. If you have a US corporation, it is also taxed on worldwide income, so it can be double taxed. And foreign corporations in the US are taxed on US-sourced income.
However, there is a loophole. If you own a company outside the US, and the company earns money outside of the US, it's only taxed in the US when the money comes back into the US. So, many people have companies registered abroad (Hong Kong is a popular jurisdiction) and money earned offshore is accrued in the foreign corporation. Expenses abroad are also paid by the foreign corporation. So, you can effectively avoid the money being double taxed (paying personal income tax only) if you earn money offshore and your offshore corporation pays your salary.
Also, if you're working abroad, it's not a vacation. A lot of things you spend money on are legitimately considered business expenses. So, if something is a business expense, pay for it with company earnings that haven't been taxed.
Now, what about paying income tax in the jurisdiction where you were living abroad? Typically, countries only tax income sourced within the country, and many countries have tax treaties where income is only taxed once. So, for example, if you're living in China, a country that has a tax treaty with the US, and you're paid by a company outside of China, and you pay taxes in the US, you don't actually have to pay taxes in China. Technically you are supposed to file there (at least in Beijing), but this isn't actually enforced unless you're on a Z-type visa and you are working for a Chinese company. And, if you're on a tourist visa pretty much anywhere in the world, you won't owe any tax in the country you were visiting. As best I know, no country in the world charges tourists income tax!
One thing that WILL happen if you're living abroad, and have foreign bank accounts: You will get audited if you claim tax exemptions that apply when you live outside the US. In my case, this came in the form of a letter to my Chinese address which basically said "prove you're really living in China," and gave me a list of documents to supply as evidence of same. There was a list of 8 or so things, of which I had to supply 3. I just sent the IRS everything on the list (not only 3 of the things, but all of the things), mailed the package from Beijing, and I never heard from them again. I think they just wanted to make sure I really was living abroad."
edit : this comment come from here http://nomadforum.io/t/what-is-the-tax-situation-for-perpetu...
These links might be really helpful : http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/International-Taxpayers/Forei... http://flagtheory.com/digital-nomad/ http://flagtheory.com/nevis-llc-formation http://nomadforum.io/t/what-is-the-tax-situation-for-perpetu...
Re: Ask HN: Where to Register a Company When Being a Traveling Digital Nomad?
#30Well, in Singapore you'll need at least one SG-resident board member. Probably not you if you'll be travelling constantly. On the other hand, if you can manage this I've found forming and dissolving companies in SG to be very easy, not to mention the tax and accountancy processes.