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Re: Ask HN: What's the best 4K computer display available on the market?

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I bought this a Samsung 40" UHD TV (UN40HU7000F) a few months ago. In this page somebody ask if the TV has support for HDMI 2.0. As far as I can tell (using a poor translation by Google) it support said version of HDMI by changing the the HDMI Color Mode.

Can anyone with fluid Korean can confirm?

http://www.samsungsvc.co.kr/online/faqView.do?domainId=NODE0...

Re: Ask HN: What's the best 4K computer display available on the market?

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So: HDMI and DisplayPort can't do 4k@60Hz without hacks. HDMI 2 is OK, but there are no video cards that do HDMI 2. DisplayPort 1.3 is also OK, but there are no monitors or video cards that use it. DisplayPort 1.2 can do 4k by pretending the monitor is two 1920x2160 monitors and using two DisplayPort streams. How this interacts with your video card depends on how many hacks your driver vendor has implemented. Linux w…

The new Nvidia 970 / 980 seem to be able to do HDMI 2: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/776257/geforce-900-... (read the last post in the thread).

Re: Ask HN: What's the best 4K computer display available on the market?

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I bought this a Samsung 40" UHD TV (UN40HU7000F) a few months ago. In this page somebody ask if the TV has support for HDMI 2.0. As far as I can tell (using a poor translation by Google) it support said version of HDMI by changing the the HDMI Color Mode. Can anyone with fluid Korean can confirm? http://www.samsungsvc.co.kr/online/faqView.do?domainId=NODE0...

Korean here. The TV is configured to use HDMI 1.4 by default, but you can turn on HDMI 2.0 mode by changing a setting called "HDMI UHD Color".

Re: Ask HN: What's the best 4K computer display available on the market?

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I use a Samsung U28D590D via Displayport 1.2 powered with an R9 R290. Running on Win 8.1 and at 60Hz.

Looks great, can play games at full res and most programs suit the dpi. No major problems.

However,

Linux is a completely different story. I had a hell of a time getting the drivers to work and after about a week of crashes, reinstalling and trying to tweak the size of things so they were visible I gave up and went back to M$.

So if you can bear Win 8.1 and have a powerful gpu, the reasonably priced Samsung is a good bet.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best 4K computer display available on the market?

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I'll state at the outset that, provided you have the ability to output using DisplayPort 1.2, you should consider the Dell UP2414Q, which I'm using and really like. Otherwise (and even in this case), you might be happier waiting it out. There were a few caveats that prevented The Wire Cutter from recommending any monitor, but some of those don't seem to apply as readily now as they did at the time of last edit. I got…

I have the Dell UP2414Q and it is the best display I have ever used! The colors are fantastic as each unit is individually calibrated and checked at the factory. The size of the screen at 24 inches is just right - any bigger and I don't think it would be comfortable for me to use. (for coding primarily) This was the smallest 4k display I could find available at the time. There is only 1 slight problem, the monitor ne…

Very true. You've summed a lot of the compromises that one has to make to enjoy the UP2414Q (or indeed pretty much any 4k monitor these days), and I really think that someday soon we'll get this right. Until then, these are the pains of being an early adopter. But I don't regret it :)

Re: Ask HN: What's the best 4K computer display available on the market?

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So: HDMI and DisplayPort can't do 4k@60Hz without hacks. HDMI 2 is OK, but there are no video cards that do HDMI 2. DisplayPort 1.3 is also OK, but there are no monitors or video cards that use it. DisplayPort 1.2 can do 4k by pretending the monitor is two 1920x2160 monitors and using two DisplayPort streams. How this interacts with your video card depends on how many hacks your driver vendor has implemented. Linux w…

> HDMI 2 is OK, but there are no video cards that do HDMI 2.

There are:

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-980...

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970...

Re: Ask HN: What's the best 4K computer display available on the market?

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So: HDMI and DisplayPort can't do 4k@60Hz without hacks. HDMI 2 is OK, but there are no video cards that do HDMI 2. DisplayPort 1.3 is also OK, but there are no monitors or video cards that use it. DisplayPort 1.2 can do 4k by pretending the monitor is two 1920x2160 monitors and using two DisplayPort streams. How this interacts with your video card depends on how many hacks your driver vendor has implemented. Linux w…

Brilliant comment. A 144Hz monitor is also an option here, I find it significantly less eye straining to look at - which is great if you are in front of it all day (which most of us are). 6220800 pixels ought to be enough for anyone.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best 4K computer display available on the market?

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I use a Samsung U28D590D via Displayport 1.2 powered with an R9 R290. Running on Win 8.1 and at 60Hz. Looks great, can play games at full res and most programs suit the dpi. No major problems. However, Linux is a completely different story. I had a hell of a time getting the drivers to work and after about a week of crashes, reinstalling and trying to tweak the size of things so they were visible I gave up and went b…

I use the same monitor via Displayport 1.2 powered by a GTX780 running on Windows 8. 4k resolution at 60hz. No complaints at all, great for desktop space and great for games.

However my late 2011 Macbook Pro or 2013 Macbook Air will not power that monitor at all, at any resolution.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best 4K computer display available on the market?

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The biggest problem I've seen is that most laptops can't adequately drive a 4K display. First of all, a lot of them can only drive a 4K display at 30hz (for example, my late-2013 Retina MBP). The currently available HDMI only goes up to 30hz, and DisplayPort 1.2 only supports 60hz with MST enabled. It seems like high-end desktop graphics cards can do this. Second, native 4K on a 28" screen is too small. I can't read…

I was under the impression that a late-2013 MBP does support HiDPI with 4K displays. Is it a hardware issue or a software one?

Late-2013 15" MBPs support HiDPI with 4K Displays.

So it looks like you can hack 13-inch Displays to work with 1080p HiDPI at 52hz (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1741440). Since it maxes out at 52hz, I'm guessing the problem is hardware-related (either rendering ability or bandwidth).

However, this means that you are just running at 1080p effective resolution. It seems like 1440p HiDPI mode is what we really want, and I don't believe this is possible (I couldn't get it to work, and the information I found on the web said the same). Hopefully the next-gen 13" MBP (Broadwell) will have DP 1.3 and more GPU rendering power, which will enable 5K displays.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best 4K computer display available on the market?

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So: HDMI and DisplayPort can't do 4k@60Hz without hacks. HDMI 2 is OK, but there are no video cards that do HDMI 2. DisplayPort 1.3 is also OK, but there are no monitors or video cards that use it. DisplayPort 1.2 can do 4k by pretending the monitor is two 1920x2160 monitors and using two DisplayPort streams. How this interacts with your video card depends on how many hacks your driver vendor has implemented. Linux w…

If your are using it as a monitor for development, web browsing and other standard desktop stuff the Seiki 32" 4k TV (only $350!) and a rMBP is great.

WRT the lag, etc. there's some minor screen tearing, but definitely no keyboard lag. It is necessary to turn off all the TV motion items and play with the colors a little but for the price it's great.

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