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Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?
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Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?
#22There is actually pretty good support, but you have to use AdSense through Google DFP - https://www.google.com/dfp/ . Things like creating ad slots dynamically / loading them later / refreshing them dynamically work fine when you use GPT tags in DFP.
Afaik AdSense still explicitly prohibits refreshing through JS, but this doesn't seem to apply when going through GPT. I'm not entirely sure what the situation here is. Case in point: I have an AJAX site where users spend about 18 minutes per visit and refresh ads every two minutes. So far no complaints from Google.
> So far no complaints from Google
I dont think Google will complain, they will just ban your account saying you broke the generic T&C.
Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?
#23The world could really use a good competitor to Adsense, couldn't it? How about some ad network that is based on contextual technology such as Facebook, retargeting, etc.
I've been buying Facebook stock for the past year under the assumption that they're going to release a product like this at some point. It just seems like such a logical business move. I think it's coming, and I think their recent tracking announcement is the first step.
> I've been buying Facebook stock for the past year under the assumption
Good luck with your speculation.
Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been buying Facebook stock for the past year under the assumption that they're going to release a product like this at some point. It just seems like such a logical business move. I think it's coming, and I think their recent tracking announcement is the first step.
> I've been buying Facebook stock for the past year under the assumption Good luck with your speculation.
He's made quite a bit of profit over the past year then.
Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?
#25I prefer affiliate networks because they, unlike AdSense, give me the freedom to design my own ads. Also there's this: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussi... Who wants this eyesore on their websites anyway? http://adsense.blogspot.se/2014/05/a-new-look-for-text-ads-o... I'm surprised the AdSense team is still toying around with amateur designs at the expense of the whole AdSense programme. I'…
Affiliate ads may work well for narrow topics, but you are not going to be able to replicate the contextual ad earnings for larger sites. You have a lot of management overhead, additional payment risk, advertiser legal risk, and so on.
This is how Google is keeping their revenue moving up as desktop usage drops. It is a combination of fucking around with the Adsense style (more clicks) and advertisers (packaging tablet with desktop, now lumping in search with display "select.")
Adsense ads might be ugly, so is display. Auto-playing video ads are even worse. If your business model relies on advertising, either take it our build your own ad platform (some companies have done quite well with this, like Indeed and PlentyofFish.)
Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?
#26I run BromBone.com. We have several customers using it to make static versions of their AJAX sites for Google Adsense purposes.
Email me at chad@brombone.com if you want to talk details.
Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?
#27I prefer affiliate networks because they, unlike AdSense, give me the freedom to design my own ads. Also there's this: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussi... Who wants this eyesore on their websites anyway? http://adsense.blogspot.se/2014/05/a-new-look-for-text-ads-o... I'm surprised the AdSense team is still toying around with amateur designs at the expense of the whole AdSense programme. I'…
Affiliate ads may work well for narrow topics, but you are not going to be able to replicate the contextual ad earnings for larger sites. You have a lot of management overhead, additional payment risk, advertiser legal risk, and so on. This is how Google is keeping their revenue moving up as desktop usage drops. It is a combination of fucking around with the Adsense style (more clicks) and advertisers (packaging tabl…
Affiliate networks (eg Commission Junction or LinkShare) solve pretty much all of the problems you mentioned.
It's a large business now, and can cover broad and narrow topics. Major affiliate networks can't compete with the scale of AdSense, but then no other ad network can either.
Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?
#28I prefer affiliate networks because they, unlike AdSense, give me the freedom to design my own ads. Also there's this: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussi... Who wants this eyesore on their websites anyway? http://adsense.blogspot.se/2014/05/a-new-look-for-text-ads-o... I'm surprised the AdSense team is still toying around with amateur designs at the expense of the whole AdSense programme. I'…
What you're asking for (publisher control of the look) contradicts the complaint about eye sores on your website. The majority of publishers will do whatever they can to get attention and we'll fall back to the flashing, blinking, and terrible contrast ads of 10 years ago.
Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?
#29Maybe dynamically add iframes with ajax-content? Every iframe would be static, and so could have adsense.
I tried a year ago and they didn't allow ads in iframes
Re: Ask HN: Google AdSense Still Bans Ajax. What are the Alternatives?
#30You can use BuySellAds units with Google Adsense as backfill.
For an example of this you can check out our Discourse instance: http://forums.hummingbird.me/ (ads may not load on the initial pageview because of a timing bug I have not fixed yet, but try clicking somewhere and back to the homepage).
This is the source code: https://github.com/vikhyat/discourse-bsa/blob/master/assets/... (Ember.js)