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Re: Ask HN: Do you have any plan for post AGI?

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How do you strike if you don’t have a job to strike from? Unless you mean striking from civil participation - no spending, no paying taxes, etc.

Post AGI economy won't depend much on human demand. As you say there will be no job to strike from. And pissing off the government probably isn't going to go down well when they're you're only hope at feeding your family. Unfortunately in this world income taxes have dropped to 10% of their previous levels and the government is now primarily funded by AI. There are rumours some leaders are questioning why they're eve…

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Re: Ask HN: Do you have any plan for post AGI?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you strike if you don’t have a job to strike from? Unless you mean striking from civil participation - no spending, no paying taxes, etc.

Post AGI economy won't depend much on human demand. As you say there will be no job to strike from. And pissing off the government probably isn't going to go down well when they're you're only hope at feeding your family. Unfortunately in this world income taxes have dropped to 10% of their previous levels and the government is now primarily funded by AI. There are rumours some leaders are questioning why they're eve…

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Re: Ask HN: Do you have any plan for post AGI?

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The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. - https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/national... - https://unabombermanifesto.com/

I can understand saying "will be" a disaster, but "have been"?

How do you square that with data like this?: https://ourworldindata.org/cdn-cgi/imagedelivery/qLq-8BTgXU8...

Re: Ask HN: Do you have any plan for post AGI?

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The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. - https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/national... - https://unabombermanifesto.com/

The second link doesn’t work for me on iOS: here’s a better one: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/fc-industrial-societ...

Re: Ask HN: Do you have any plan for post AGI?

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> The good thing is that LLMs will not bring forth AGI. Even if this were true you'd be silly not to see the larger trend. LLMs and the transformer model were just a step function in AI capabilities upon the last generation of AI. Whether it's LLMs or not is irrelevent. Major algorithmic improvements in AI have happened every 5-10 years over the last 50 or so years, and now they're happening maybe every 3-5. The ques…

Yes, that’s like claiming the invention of the wheel is a step towards landing on the moon. Eventually the boffins will crack the problem of consciousness, what I am saying is that LLM technology itself has nothing to do with general (human-like) intelligence. > Arguably people worrying about job loses are not worried enough. Do you people get off by fantasizing about people losing their job, or worse ? (whatever you…

I don't think your wheel analogy holds. Wheels and rockets are fundamentally different technologies.

> LLM technology itself has nothing to do with general (human-like) intelligence.

Neural nets to the brain are like a plane to a bird. Saying LLMs have nothing to do with human-like intelligence is fundamentally ignorant of the field and the inspiration behind many of the algorithmic experiments.

LLMs clearly do things differently, but that doesn't mean they can't be generally intelligent, or they can't produce output that's remarkably similar to a human.

And to be clear, I have studied AI, published on AI and work in AI.

> Do you people get off by fantasizing about people losing their job, or worse? (whatever you are implying)

I'm the exact opposite. I've been terrified about AI for decades. I had nightmares last night as I do most nights about AI. I think humanity is years away from a disaster and I'm pleading for people to see.

But what I've learnt is that every step closer we get the goal posts just move a little more. I'll note just a few years ago HN was saying ChatGPT and LLMs were just stochastic parrots or advanced autocompletes. I pushed back against this and said within years they'll be raising PRs on their own from tickets. But everyone told me, "nooo, they couldn't even do basic maths!!"

Remember this comment when the time comes. We could have acted, but we didn't because every advancement people dismissed and seem to think that further improvements would not be made. You will be wrong.

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