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Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Google indexing information about the AT Protocol?

#21

I got 2300 results. DuckDuckGo Uses google. Google is very personalised. They use many dirty tricks to give personalised results. Use another box and check the results again.

Doesn't DDG use Bing?

Yes it does.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Google indexing information about the AT Protocol?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you link it? Curious to see how buried it is for me. Personalization is one thing but on my results I'm getting Tor relays, Nostr relays, IPFS relays, and Fediverse relays and I haven't yet seen a list of atproto relays. I'm on like page 6 now.

I'm not the same commenter, but here's a Kagi share link so you can explore their results: https://kagi.com/search?q=list+of+public+atproto+relays&r=no...

Kagi's are good, yes. The issue is with Google's.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Google indexing information about the AT Protocol?

#23

Spare us the conspiracy; atproto.at? firehose.directory? Why would google index any of those sites with no authority/age? Maybe the owners didn't submit them to give them some credibility to start. Maybe the results vary.

Google has indexed both of them, actually, you can search successfully for those two domains directly. They just don't come up when you search for "list of public atproto relays". Any other theories?

Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Google indexing information about the AT Protocol?

#24

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Lol, that's what I thought this was about too. Why don't these people/companies think about how hard it will be to search for their $thing !?

Yeah like /e/ os. That's hard to search for because the slash is ignored and the e is only one letter.

All the results for "e os" are about /e/OS, and that's its full name, so you wouldn't just search for "e". D language is a better example — its just called "D", but searching for that doesn't give results about the language. On the other hand, for "C" and "R" the top results are all about the languages. "Go" is also a pretty bad one, they insist it's not called "golang" but you basically have to search for that to get any useful information.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Google indexing information about the AT Protocol?

#25

Spare us the conspiracy; atproto.at? firehose.directory? Why would google index any of those sites with no authority/age? Maybe the owners didn't submit them to give them some credibility to start. Maybe the results vary.

"Credibility" for Google seems to mean being around for 5 years or having over 10 million dollars. They no longer try to surface the long tail of websites.

Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Google indexing information about the AT Protocol?

#26
Here's a way to fix that: post the info you're looking for on reddit. Google will index that instead. Happened here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1umokol/meituan... You could post links instead of the actual info to avoid centralizing info on reddit

Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Google indexing information about the AT Protocol?

#27
post #12

Google search has generally rotted. Can't get promoted for maintenance.

That’s best case scenario. Worst case is that they’re censoring the internet on a massive scale but have rolled it out slowly enough that no one noticed

Here's a way to fix that: post the info you're looking for on reddit. Google will index that instead. Happened here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1umokol

You could post links instead of the actual info to avoid centralizing info on reddit

Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Google indexing information about the AT Protocol?

#28

Can confirm that I can also reproduce this. Interesting.

Here's a way to fix that: post the info you're looking for on reddit. Google will index that instead. Happened here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1umokol You could post links instead of the actual info to avoid centralizing info on reddit

Re: Ask HN: Why isn't Google indexing information about the AT Protocol?

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s best case scenario. Worst case is that they’re censoring the internet on a massive scale but have rolled it out slowly enough that no one noticed

They are. There’s been a bunch of studies already showing how Google skews its results to align with oligarch interests.

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