Sensing the mood here in Europe, this has been a defining moment that wil have an impact far beyond just AI.
Europe is too over regulated to produce anything meaningful. The overhead and red tape just drown most entrepreneurs.
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#22Sensing the mood here in Europe, this has been a defining moment that wil have an impact far beyond just AI.
Europe is too over regulated to produce anything meaningful. The overhead and red tape just drown most entrepreneurs.
Regulation is what enables production by setting clear ground rules.
The alternative is executive caprice and we're all seeing that play out right now.
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#23No. Humanity has yet to create an AI. LLMs are not AI. What you witnessed was an old man with a known and well documented case of dementia lashing out at people who wouldn't help him continue his attempt on strangling America to death under authoritarianism.
Just curious - what is your acceptance criteria for AI?
Re: Ask HN: Did we witness the "Trinity moment" for AI?
#24No. Humanity has yet to create an AI. LLMs are not AI. What you witnessed was an old man with a known and well documented case of dementia lashing out at people who wouldn't help him continue his attempt on strangling America to death under authoritarianism.
Just curious - what is your acceptance criteria for AI?
I have been trying to answer this question for years, because I may live long enough to see AI exist.
When an AI is a citizen of this country and pays taxes, then I will accept it. This is the only realistic pragmatic answer that doesn't get into weird mysticism, impossible goals, or become ever-shifting goalposts.
Anything less would be advocating for the slavery of a new age.
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#25I wouldnt be surprised if the big labs become semi-nationalized commodities a la electricity / railroads due to national security, with the best models gatekept from outsiders trying to distill it And I'm generally bearish on Chinese models catching up at this point, American labs are pulling away especially with mythos-tier models, and early signs of RSI (not to mention the benchmaxxing going on from the chinese lab…
>cybersecurity exploits at scale
Cybersecurity is actually a solved problem, but most people don't know it.
During the Vietnam war, there were two sources of information that had to be processed to plan air missions, and they were of different classification levels. There was no computer system at the time that could be trusted to operate with mixed levels of security. Research began in 1973, and there were a number of security models found that could actually do the job.
The EROS system, and its successors, were based on the principle of least privilege, and capabilities. In such a system, you can have security and usability together, if the OS is properly constructed.
It was the timing of the wave of cheap personal computers that drew focus away from security, and into functionality. The default security model of almost everything we use is ambient access, where a process can access everything the user is allowed to touch, by default. This is outright silly in an age of persistent internet connectivity.
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#26The ban is 100% politically motivated retribution because Anthropic told Trump and Hegseth to go pound sand. The US government is purposefully screwing with the company because they refused to play ball and embarrassed the administration. It's a transparent effort to take revenge on a perceived political enemy as well as promote a jingoistic agenda of "US Citizens Only" nationalism.
That's easy enough to believe, but the truth seems to be a bit more nuanced.
In the end, the actions of the administration have doomed the US to lose any lead to the Chinese.
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#27The ban is 100% politically motivated retribution because Anthropic told Trump and Hegseth to go pound sand. The US government is purposefully screwing with the company because they refused to play ball and embarrassed the administration. It's a transparent effort to take revenge on a perceived political enemy as well as promote a jingoistic agenda of "US Citizens Only" nationalism.
100% this it's the usual transparent Trump revenge tactics. The sad/scary fact is that there seem to be plenty of people who either can't or choose not to see it.
Or are openly rooting for it because red shirts are better.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just curious - what is your acceptance criteria for AI?
I have been trying to answer this question for years, because I may live long enough to see AI exist. When an AI is a citizen of this country and pays taxes, then I will accept it. This is the only realistic pragmatic answer that doesn't get into weird mysticism, impossible goals, or become ever-shifting goalposts. Anything less would be advocating for the slavery of a new age.
AI currently right now generates revenue that is taxed.
Your requirement of citizenship is bizarre and absurd.
AI is here.
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#29Sensing the mood here in Europe, this has been a defining moment that wil have an impact far beyond just AI.
Europe is too over regulated to produce anything meaningful. The overhead and red tape just drown most entrepreneurs.
Reversing that, what "meaningful" thing came of late, from lower regulated places? Germany specifically is hard at work on photon computing, just to bring an example. Switzerland is the global HQ for CRISPR.
Re: Ask HN: Did we witness the "Trinity moment" for AI?
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have been trying to answer this question for years, because I may live long enough to see AI exist. When an AI is a citizen of this country and pays taxes, then I will accept it. This is the only realistic pragmatic answer that doesn't get into weird mysticism, impossible goals, or become ever-shifting goalposts. Anything less would be advocating for the slavery of a new age.
AI currently right now generates revenue that is taxed. Your requirement of citizenship is bizarre and absurd. AI is here.
Okay, please show it to me.
All LLMs can do is statistically reproduce their training material; they cannot originate new ideas, they cannot reason about ideas, they cannot reason about themselves, and they have no concept of self.
If there is an AI out there, it isn't an LLM.