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Re: Ask HN: GCP Outage?

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Post by JohnMakin »

dangoodmanUT wrote: post #14

Reminder that multi cloud >>> multi region Anyone who says otherwise is selling availability theater Too many whole-cloud outages due to a bad config in the last 2 months (GCP x2, cloudflare x2)

I've maintained a large multi-cloud architecture in the past. The problem is they really hit you hard on egress costs. Of course the motivation is obvious, they want to keep you locked in to their vendor. I did like that it gave a stronger leverage in contract renewals, but that was about it. The IAC was much more complicated and required more people/areas of knowledge. So it's definitely a tradeoff.

You are correct that it's "better" though if your goal is to have as many 9's of uptime as possible.

Re: Ask HN: GCP Outage?

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Post by kenmacd »

dijit wrote: post #19

Maybe centralising all our IT infrastructure wasn't a good idea after all.

I dunno. If just your employers site is down then you'll be expected to fix it, whereas if everyone is down there's less pressure.

Re: Ask HN: GCP Outage?

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Post by mads_quist »

JohnMakin wrote: post #21
dangoodmanUT wrote: post #14

Reminder that multi cloud >>> multi region Anyone who says otherwise is selling availability theater Too many whole-cloud outages due to a bad config in the last 2 months (GCP x2, cloudflare x2)

I've maintained a large multi-cloud architecture in the past. The problem is they really hit you hard on egress costs. Of course the motivation is obvious, they want to keep you locked in to their vendor. I did like that it gave a stronger leverage in contract renewals, but that was about it. The IAC was much more complicated and required more people/areas of knowledge. So it's definitely a tradeoff. You are correct…

I currently have the strong opinion that for many mid-sized orgs with 250+ engineers it can be more resilient if you go back to bare metal or at least VM only in two or three local date centers. Yes, you need to know that they do their job well. But it will probably also reduce a lot of devops overhead...

Re: Ask HN: GCP Outage?

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Post by freedomben »

Definitely been seeing a handful of 50x errors this morning. Fortunately seems like a partial outage but definitely annoying (and can sometimes indicate worse trouble coming)

Re: Ask HN: GCP Outage?

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Post by dangoodmanUT »

18172828286177 wrote: post #18
dangoodmanUT wrote: post #14

Reminder that multi cloud >>> multi region Anyone who says otherwise is selling availability theater Too many whole-cloud outages due to a bad config in the last 2 months (GCP x2, cloudflare x2)

This isn’t a whole-cloud outage. It’s not even a whole-region outage. Whole-cloud outages are pretty damn rare. The recent GCP issues are an exception to the general rule. I’d posit that the complexity of a multi-cloud setup is generally going to reduce your service’s reliability more than relying on a single cloud does.

Not about regions, it’s about services

Re: Ask HN: GCP Outage?

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Post by CoastalCoder »

mbf wrote: post #25
ge96 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time pager duty hits, take a shot

I forgot all about pager duty... been retired over a year now. I don't miss pager duty.

> I forgot all about pager duty

Probably because it's hard to form long-term memories when you're sleep-deprived :/

Re: Ask HN: GCP Outage?

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Post by dilyevsky »

JohnMakin wrote: post #21
dangoodmanUT wrote: post #14

Reminder that multi cloud >>> multi region Anyone who says otherwise is selling availability theater Too many whole-cloud outages due to a bad config in the last 2 months (GCP x2, cloudflare x2)

I've maintained a large multi-cloud architecture in the past. The problem is they really hit you hard on egress costs. Of course the motivation is obvious, they want to keep you locked in to their vendor. I did like that it gave a stronger leverage in contract renewals, but that was about it. The IAC was much more complicated and required more people/areas of knowledge. So it's definitely a tradeoff. You are correct…

There are multiple companies that help you with that by running tunnels via Direct Interconnect (Direct Connect in AWS) so that you "only" pay 2c/G egressing data out of VPC via this tunnel
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